[sims] Working Patterns

[tben2505]

Hi folks - an issue I hope you can help with:

 

On the Classroom Staff Details screen, when adding the organisation in panel 3, the "Working Pattern" defaults to a time we do not want (08:30 - 16:30) - we're not sure where it finds this time but it needs to be 08:00 - 17:00 (as defined in the timetable cycle) - otherwise staff won't be seen as working before 08:30 or after 16:30 for cover purposes (duties/meetings etc)...

 

Changing/adding organisation in the Tools > Cover > Organisations and Bookings > Define Named Intervals does not affect the default working pattern when adding it to staff, just simply allows it to be selected when editing each day.

 

This means we have to go through all staff members and edit each working day to make their working hours correct - obviously not ideal!

 

Is there a fix or workaround!? What are the defaults everyone else has out of interest?

 

Cheers

 

Tom

 

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[bobsmith]

Must be configurable - ours says 08.45 to 15:15

[gavvinchi]

Capita used to provide a patch that would update your working pattern based on times defined in your timetable cycle. Im not sure if they still provide this might be worth giving them a call?

[gavvinchi]

KB84854 Cover 7 - Working pattern is not correct

 

Affected Products: Cover 7

 

 

 

 

Cover 7 - Working pattern is not correct

 

 

 

KBA-05031-F7F3N4

 

 

 

Notes

 

 

 

 

SIMS .net | Focus | Person | Manage Classroom Staff | Open Any Staff Record - Go to 3) Organisations Tab | It shows working pattern of staff as per the timetable.

 

 

 

A change of cycle which includes a change of start or end time on the day does not automatically change the start/end times of the working patterns of staff who work all day.

 

 

 

Working pattern is not correct

 

 

Working Pattern

 

 

 

Please see KB111293 for information on changing period times in the cycle

 

 

 

Workaround

 

 

 

 

Patch 13271 has been created to update the most common working pattern for the members of staff according to the new start times and end times exported from Nova.

 

 

 

The start time of someone's working pattern will only be changed to the new cycle start time if their original start time matches the common working pattern and is later than the new one.

 

 

 

The end time of someone's working pattern will only be changed to the new cycle end time if their original end time matches the common working pattern and is earlier than the new one.

 

 

 

i.e. working patterns are extended, not reduced, by the patch.

 

 

 

 

Please find a DBDiagnose script included in the patch zip. When run, it displays a list of all the members of staff whose working pattern would be updated.

 

 

 

 

Run the script via DBDiagnose. DBDiagnose's default location is C:\Program Files\SIMS\SIMS .net.

 

 

 

 

Please contact your local support provider for a copy of the patch and script.

 

 

 

 

This patch needs to be requested if it is required. It will not be included in a release.

 

 

 

We recommend manually changing working patterns where the patch has not made the required automatic change. However, this is only necessary where the working pattern does not extend over periods where the person may be required to do cover.

[tben2505]

Cheers all - we have indeed been given a patch and will apply it after the TT Cycle begins (it won't work otherwise) and see what happens!

 

Cheers

 

Tom

[vikpaw]

I think when i first set it up i wrote a vbscript to do it manually. We only had one named interval, so the easiest way to do it, is to edit their pattern, delete all, then you can quickly add all days again with your named interval as the pattern. Not ideal, but doable. Particularly if you want to do it sooner.

[tben2505]

Cheers vikpaw, I think we'll wait until the cycle starts to apply the patch - failing that we'll do it manually using the new defined intervals we set, adding day by day!!

 

Thanks guys!

 

T