mac_shinobi Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 @mac_shinobi. Look. Ram slots are the least of your problems. As i said... the wc setup is the scariest thing. Thermal paste can be applied with a blob up to half a cm... and then just left to spread itself. It can aldo be placed as a single line down the center of the cpu and left to spread (this would be a thin line... about 1/4 of a cm). Paste can be applied with a card... needing a very thin layer. Stop worrying about the easy jobs. In order.... Case - open all panels Cpu placed on mobo outside case Install mobo Install psu Connect cables to mobo Install gpu Install ram Install extra fans Install watercooler Connect up remaining cables and tidy up. Job done. Perfect - Thanks Sunny One last question ref the installation of the radiator / fans Install similar to this with the fans above the rad inside the case : http://forums.pureoverclock.com/attachments/cooling/5050d1375020632-900d-dream-build-xspc-360-rad-install.jpg Install similar to this with the fans below the rad inside the case : http://m.hardocp.com/images/articles/1365998016fSgDbPs9tE_5_11.jpg OR Is it a reasonable idea to install the radiator outside the case and the fans inside the case something like this ( obviously can't see the fans ) : http://cdn.overclock.net/0/0c/0c008ca7_testfit.jpeg Presume the fans have an arrow or something to indicate which way around to install the fans so you know which way the air flow will be going ? Am good now after this - Thank you everyone !!!
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Perfect - Thanks Sunny One last question ref the installation of the radiator / fans Install similar to this with the fans above the rad inside the case : http://forums.pureoverclock.com/attachments/cooling/5050d1375020632-900d-dream-build-xspc-360-rad-install.jpg Install similar to this with the fans below the rad inside the case : http://m.hardocp.com/images/articles/1365998016fSgDbPs9tE_5_11.jpg OR Is it a reasonable idea to install the radiator outside the case and the fans inside the case something like this ( obviously can't see the fans ) : http://cdn.overclock.net/0/0c/0c008ca7_testfit.jpeg Presume the fans have an arrow or something to indicate which way around to install the fans so you know which way the air flow will be going ? Am good now after this - Thank you everyone !!! You can choose from either. However, with the first option, your fans will blow air out of the case. This is the best option. The second one will bring air back inside the case, so you need your side and rear fan PULLING that air out. This also works and is usually a favorite as its easy to setup. The last one i wouldn't do unless you get a mounting bracket to hold the rad OUTSIDE and at the REAR of your case. These also work superbly... however, it would depend on how long the tubing from the rad to the pump is. Uhhh as for fans... ive seen none which tell you which pull and push. I usually just check my other pcs to see how its faced and test accordingly with 1 fan attached to the psu. Oh TAKE GOOD NOTE HERE MAC. Make sure your fan pins are located near your mobo... otherwise they might not reach... and youll be left standing. I have mine all seperate on 3 different pins which i control from the bios. I have used fan controllers before... but that means i have to use 3pin/4pin extensions. I cba with that. Lol Edited January 16, 2015 by Sunnyknight
Garacesh Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Is it a reasonable idea to install the radiator outside the case and the fans inside the case something like this ( obviously can't see the fans ) : http://cdn.overclock.net/0/0c/0c008ca7_testfit.jpeg Presume the fans have an arrow or something to indicate which way around to install the fans so you know which way the air flow will be going ? Am good now after this - Thank you everyone !!! FYI that's not outside the case.. Well kinda. There'll be a faceplate that goes on the top (like the front panel) that will fit over there. A lot of fans don't have an arrow, BUT, usually the fans are always the same way... The side of the fan that has the physical.. connections.. crap how do I explain this? __________ |\ /| | \ ____/ | | | | | | |___| | | / \ | |/_______\| The side that looks like that is usually the 'back' of the fan. Air is usually pulled IN at the OTHER side, and pushed OUT at that side. If all else fails, hold the fan in one hand and start spinning it with the other.
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) FYI that's not outside the case.. Well kinda. There'll be a faceplate that goes on the top (like the front panel) that will fit over there. A lot of fans don't have an arrow, BUT, usually the fans are always the same way... The side of the fan that has the physical.. connections.. crap how do I explain this? __________ |\ /| | \ ____/ | | | | | | |___| | | / \ | |/_______\| The side that looks like that is usually the 'back' of the fan. Air is usually pulled IN at the OTHER side, and pushed OUT at that side. If all else fails, hold the fan in one hand and start spinning it with the other. What the f..... is that @Garacesh lmao!!! WHATTTTT IS IT LOOOLLLL Im crying oh god... help LOL Edited January 16, 2015 by Sunnyknight 1
mac_shinobi Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 You can choose from either. However, with the first option, your fans will blow air out of the case. This is the best option. The second one will bring air back inside the case, so you need your side and rear fan PULLING that air out. This also works and is usually a favorite as its easy to setup. The last one i wouldn't do unless you get a mounting bracket to hold the rad OUTSIDE and at the REAR of your case. These also work superbly... however, it would depend on how long the tubing from the rad to the pump is. Uhhh as for fans... ive seen none which tell you which pull and push. I usually just check my other pcs to see how its faced and test accordingly with 1 fan attached to the psu. Oh TAKE GOOD NOTE HERE MAC. Make sure your fan pins are located near your mobo... otherwise they might not reach... and youll be left standing. I have mine all seperate on 3 different pins which i control from the bios. I have used fan controllers before... but that means i have to use 3pin/4pin extensions. I cba with that. Lol I was thinking option 1 or 3 however, what mounting bracket would I need and how much would this cost ? length of the tubing from rad to pump block I believe is 320mm and I get an included PWM Splitter cable( 1 to 3 ) so I only use one PWM Connector on the motherboard to power and or control the 3 fans
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 I was thinking option 1 or 3 however, what mounting bracket would I need and how much would this cost ? length of the tubing from rad to pump block I believe is 320mm and I get an included PWM Splitter cable( 1 to 3 ) so I only use one PWM Connector on the motherboard to power and or control the 3 fans Koolance Radiator Mounting Bracket with Quick-Release [bKT-HX001] That'll do it nicely if you go with option 3. 2
Garacesh Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 What the f..... is that @Garacesh lmao!!! WHATTTTT IS IT LOOOLLLL Im crying oh god... help LOL I'd draw it better on paint, but uploads are b0rk'd right now, aren't they? This is the 'front' of the fan. It pulls air IN. This is the 'back' of the fan, it pulls air OUT * Should've thought of that before. But I will leave my post as it is. I shall own my shame. 1
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 I'd draw it better on paint, but uploads are b0rk'd right now, aren't they? This is the 'front' of the fan. It pulls air IN. This is the 'back' of the fan, it pulls air OUT * Should've thought of that before. But I will leave my post as it is. I shall own my shame. Linking that would have been much easier, though i have to say, i enjoyed the laugh. xD 1
mac_shinobi Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Koolance Radiator Mounting Bracket with Quick-Release [bKT-HX001] That'll do it nicely if you go with option 3. Where would the tubes go if I got this ( tubes from Radiator to the pump ) taking into consideration I have ordered the NZXT Phantom 820 tower / case ? Only thing I can think of is that the bracket would be mounted on top of the case in the middle section and then the radiator would go in this bracket and the tubing go down through the roof of the case , presume this would mean I couldn't put the top of the case back on ? Not that putting the top of the case back on is an issue Edited January 16, 2015 by mac_shinobi
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Where would the tubes go if I got this ( tubes from Radiator to the pump ) taking into consideration I have ordered the NZXT Phantom 820 tower / case ? Through the any of the 4 rubber grommets at the back of the case.
mac_shinobi Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Through the any of the 4 rubber grommets at the back of the case. Kelvin S36 is an All In One Unit so that would entail taking the tubes off the pump or something ( would end up with liquid every where ) : Fractal Design Unless I am missing something ? [ATTACH=CONFIG]28489[/ATTACH] OR http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2012/11/nzxt-phantom-820-review/phantom820-3b.jpg Think I will have to go with option 1 and install the radiator inside the case and the fans below pulling warm air through the rad PSU Wise - install the psu with the fan facing up so it sucks warm air out or face down so it is pulling in cooler air in through the dust filter(s) ? If I recall correctly I think hardware canucks did a review of this case and a brief mention of taking the top of the case off to install the radiator on top , not sure how much if any use that is ? Edited January 16, 2015 by mac_shinobi
Garacesh Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Yes Mac you're right, you have a closed loop cooler which means you can't thread the tubes through the grommet holes in the back, but that shouldn't make a difference. The H60 I use currently is the same, just attach both the radiator and fan to the inside of your case, the screws supplied with it should be long enough. Attachments are still b0rk'd so I can't see what that is. 1
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Kelvin S36 is an All In One Unit so that would entail taking the tubes off the pump or something ( would end up with liquid every where ) : Fractal Design Unless I am missing something ? [ATTACH=CONFIG]28489[/ATTACH] OR http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2012/11/nzxt-phantom-820-review/phantom820-3b.jpg Think I will have to go with option 1 and install the radiator inside the case and the fans below pulling warm air through the rad PSU Wise - install the psu with the fan facing up so it sucks warm air out or face down so it is pulling in cooler air in through the dust filter(s) ? If I recall correctly I think hardware canucks did a review of this case and a brief mention of taking the top of the case off to install the radiator on top , not sure how much if any use that is ? Remove the fittings attached to the pump and thread through from the outside in. Then you go about filling up after re-attaching the fittings to the pump / bracket. Done.
mac_shinobi Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Remove the fittings attached to the pump and thread through from the outside in. Then you go about filling up after re-attaching the fittings to the pump / bracket. Done. 1) Outta cash so can't get anything to re fill it with 2) Don't feel confident enough doing that just yet 3) If and when I do that I would need to know how to clean it out and put new coolant or what ever back in and how to put it back together So for now will install inside the case Installing it outside will be a project for later on ..... Thanks for the info and suggestions Can get ic diamond in a few years once the cpu warranty expires and I will OC it later This cooler will keep it running nice and cool though Edited January 16, 2015 by mac_shinobi
Garacesh Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Okay so the vast majority of my stuff arrived today and I got this hydro cooler lark figured out, I reckon. Isn't too complicated, provided you get everything in the right order and don't mix up your in/outs. But a bit of an issue with my reservoir.. How to describe it (I'll get pictures later) There are 4 holes in the back. Two of them actually go inside the reservoir to where the main bulk of the water would sit, the other two are connected to each other but don't actually go anywhere. Just in and then out again without actually going into the part where the water would be held. However, one of each has screw 'teeth', the other two do not. So one water entry/exit has the capability to attach a fitting, ther other does not. And then there's this weird little tunnel that also has one capability for a fitting, the other without.. Uh, wat.
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Okay so the vast majority of my stuff arrived today and I got this hydro cooler lark figured out, I reckon. Isn't too complicated, provided you get everything in the right order and don't mix up your in/outs. But a bit of an issue with my reservoir.. How to describe it (I'll get pictures later) There are 4 holes in the back. Two of them actually go inside the reservoir to where the main bulk of the water would sit, the other two are connected to each other but don't actually go anywhere. Just in and then out again without actually going into the part where the water would be held. However, one of each has screw 'teeth', the other two do not. So one water entry/exit has the capability to attach a fitting, ther other does not. And then there's this weird little tunnel that also has one capability for a fitting, the other without.. Uh, wat. Come again?
Garacesh Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Come again? At least take me out to dinner first! Getting a few photo now.
Garacesh Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Okay, photygraphs. This first photo is how the reservoir arrived. The two holes on the right (of the picture) have screw threads. The two holes on the left do not, they are smooth inside and came supplied with these odd rubber fillings as this second image shows. This third picture shows what the holes connect to. The outer holes connect inside the reservoir, where the water would be. The two middle holes simply connect to each other and do not enter the main water 'pool'. Ultimately, this allows me to screw the fixtures into the two right (on the picture) side holes, but nothing into the left, as shown in this fourth shot. The rubber inserts can also be seen above the holes.
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Your images are as bad as your explaining. Give me some decent pics. From a little further back. Under. Over. Each side. Not too close either. COME ON GARA! lol Also... which res is it?
Garacesh Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Those pictures are perfectly goddamn adequate lol. Is it normal that a reservoir should only have half of its holes threaded? I would guess at 'no'.
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Those pictures are perfectly goddamn adequate lol. Is it normal that a reservoir should only have half of its holes threaded? I would guess at 'no'. Gara, seriously, they're not lol. Get better pics you noob! Also, no, it's not. Which is why i asked which res is it lol
Garacesh Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Seriously, how can you not work out the weird tunnel that doesn't even go inside the main reservoir from those pictures? It's here. How can you not see it? Right here.. The res is "1x Alphacool Repack - Laing DDC - 5,25 Single Bay Station", from this Alphacool NexXxoS kit
Sunnyknight Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Right you noob.... after a brief look and some research... The res is perfectly fine. The pump attaches to one side (the one without the indents and the fittings for your tubing fit on the right side. So from the photos, the pump would go on the left, and you'd have your intake / outtake tubing on the right. EDIT: refer to this link, diagram 4. http://www.thewatercoolingshop.co.uk/alphacool-repack-laing-ddc-5.25-bay-station-15165.html Edited January 16, 2015 by Sunnyknight 1
Garacesh Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Huh.. So the pump connects directly into the reservoir.. Odd, but, fair enough. I did try to look it up myself, but YouTube and Google seemed insistant that I meant 'cool' instead of 'Ocool'. Cheers. Edit: Hm. Actually. The plexiglass back can be taken off, revealing the tubes inside. Would the middle tube, then, be a good place to put the kill coil? as there's no way it's ever going to shift if it's in there. Edited January 16, 2015 by Garacesh
Arthur Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 I did try to look it up myself, but YouTube and Google seemed insistent that I meant 'cool' instead of 'Ocool'. Cheers. Search for 'Alphacool' instead of 'αcool'. YouTube doesn't like Greek letters.
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