[sims] Dynamic Discover groups effective date range

[Ecclesbury]

Hi all,

 

I've tried setting up a couple of dynamic groups in Discover but the start date of any student in this group can not be amended to be before the group was created.

 

Is it possible to create dynamic groups retrospectively? Or alternitvely is it possible to amend students membership does of the group so that the start date is before the group was created? This is possible with supervisors but not students in the group (I can see why this is the case though!)

 

Thanks.

[tombry]

I don't think you can - the idea of the dynamic groups is that they change, and it's been a while since I had the bit of training on it, but I remember them telling us that essentially if you want to keep a list of the students that are members on any given day, you'd have to export the list on that day.

[Ecclesbury]

Thanks tombry, that's as I expected to be honest.

 

An extra thought on this, which strikes me as odd, is that if you set up a conduct summary home page panel for a discover group it calculates the number of behaviours/achievements only for the period that they were a member of that group. I can't quite work out the rationale for this...what group would you be setting up where this technique would make sense? Surely you would want to see the entire conduct summary for the current member of that group?

 

Equally, when you are looking at attendance data through edit marks for a discover group you can only see the registers for the time when they were part of the group? So if I want to look at the <80% attendance dynamic group and track back through their registers to see any issues, I can't do it! Again, to me it seems that a situation where this would be useful is the exception rather than the rule?

 

Enough venting I think. Dynamic groups are such a brilliant idea, and work really well for some things , that it is frustrating that I'm already coming up against road blocks with using them. I really want to start rolling stuff out to staff that use these dynamic groups but so far everything I've tried is not working. I'm trying my best to avoid standard SIMS reports.

Edited November 13, 2014 by Ecclesbury

[Ecclesbury]

p.s. I do realise that it would probably be near impossible to do what I'm suggesting with regards to edit marks since I'm guessing the group membership refreshes each time a new register week is opened.

[Rebuxton]

Is it still the case that the dynamic discover group membership only works from the date the group was set up? Anyone have any workarounds? So frustrating!