cinewlyn Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Hi all, The modern Languages Dept. is on at me to get them some VCRs that will play the french SECAM tapes they have. Our PAL VCRs will read them of course but will only play them in black and white due to the difference in the colour encoding on broadcast. I've searched the internet for multi system VCRs but all the ones i have found have been for the american market and state they play meSecam. I know the French system is SECAM L. Does anyone know if these american VCRs will a: work on PAL tvs and b: play French SECAM L tapes. Or if anyone has found a true MULTI system VCR could they let me know details. Craig Newlyn. AV Technician, The King’s School, Canterbury, Kent CT1 2ES. [email protected]
Michael Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 As you correctly said, PAL and SECAM consist of 625 lines updating at 50Hz. NTSC consists of 525 lines updating at 60Hz. Here's a good reference of which country uses which standard: Afghanistan - SECAM & PAL Albania - PAL Algeria - PAL Andorra - PAL Angola - PAL Antarctica - NTSC Antigua & Barbuda - NTSC Argentina - PAL Armenia - MESECAM Aruba - NTSC Austrailia - PAL Austria - PAL Azerbaijan - MESECAM Azores - PAL Bahamas - NTSC Bahrain - PAL Bangladesh - PAL Barbados - NTSC Belgium - PAL Belize - NTSC Benin - MESECAM Bermuda Island - NTSC Boliva - NTSC Bosnia - PAL Botswana - SECAM Brazil - PAL-M British Indian Ocean Territory - NTSC Brunei - PAL Bulgaria - SECAM Burma - NTSC Burundi - MESECAM Byelarus -ME SECAM Cayman Island - NTSC Camaroon - PAL Canada - NTSC Canary Island - PAL Central African Republic - SECAM Chad - SECAM Chile - NTSC China - PAL Columbia - NTSC Congo - SECAM Cook Island - PAL Costa Rica - NTSC Crete - PAL Croatia - PAL Cuba - NTSC Cyprus - PAL Czech Republic - PAL Denmark - PAL Djibouti - SECAM Dominica -... NTSC Ecuador - NTSC Egypt - PAL El Salvador - NTSC Equatorial Guinea - SECAM vertical Estonia - SECAM & PAL Ethiopia - PAL Falkland Islands - PAL Faroe Island - PAL Fiji - NTSC Finland - PAL France - SECAM Gabon - SECAM Gambia - PAL Georgia - SECAM Germany - PAL Ghana - PAL Gilbralta - PAL Greece - SECAM Greenland - PAL Greenland USAFB - NTSC Grenada - NTSC Guadeloupe - MESECAM Guam - NTSC Guatemala - NTSC Guinea - PAL Guyana - NTSC Guyana (French) - SECAM Haiti - NTSC Honduras - NTSC Hong Kong - PAL Hungary -PAL Iceland -PAL India -PAL Indonesia - PAL Iran -ME SECAM Iraq - MESECAM Ireland - PAL Israel - PAL Italy - PAL Ivory Coast - MESECAM Jamaica - NTSC Japan - NTSC Johnston Island - NTSC Jordan - PAL Kampuchea - PAL Kazakhstan - SECAM Kenya - PAL Korea (North) - PAL & NTSC Korea (South) - NTSC Kuwait - PAL Kyrgyzstan - SECAM Laos - PAL Lativa - SECAM Lebanon - SECAM vertical Lesotho - PAL Liberia - PAL Libya - PAL Lithuania - SECAM Luxembourg - SECAM & PAL Macao - PAL Macedonia - PAL Madagascar - MESECAM Madaira - PAL Malawi - PAL Malaysia - PAL Maldives - PAL Mali -ME SECAM Malta - PAL Marshall Islands - NTSC Martinique - MESECAM Mauritania - MESECAM Mauritius - MESECAM Mayotte -ME SECAM Mexico - NTSC Microneisa - NTSC Midway Island - NTSC Moldava -ME SECAM Monaco - SECAM & PAL Mongolia - MESECAM Montserrat - NTSC Morocco - MESECAM Mozambique - PAL Myanmar - NTSC Nambia - PAL Nepal - PAL Netherlands - PAL Netherlands Antilles - NTSC New Caledonia - MESECAM New Zeeland - PAL Nicaragua - NTSC Niger -ME SECAM Nigeria - PAL Norfolk Island - PAL Northern Marina Islands - NTSC Norway - PAL Okinawa - NTSC Oman - PAL Pakistan - PAL Palau - NTSC Panama - NTSC Papua New Guinea - PAL Paraguay - PAL Peru - NTSC Philippines - NTSC Poland - PAL Polynesia (French) -SECAM Portugal - PAL Puerto Rico - NTSC Quatar - PAL Reunion - MESECAM Romania - PAL Russia - SECAM Samoa (American) - NTSC Samoa (Western) - PAL Sao Tome - PAL Saudi Arabia - SECAM & PAL. Senegal - MESECAM Seychelles Island - PAL Sierra Leone - PAL Singapore - PAL Slovakia - SECAM & PAL Slovenia - PAL Somalia - PAL South Africa - PAL Spain - PAL Sri Lanka - PAL St. Grenadines - NTSC St. Lucia - NTSC St. Marino - PAL St. Pierre Miquelon - MESECAM St. Vincent - NTSC St. Kitts - NTSC Sudan - PAL Surinam - NTSC Swaziland -PAL Sweden - PAL Switzerland - PAL Syria - PAL Tahiti -MESECAM Taiwan - NTSC Tajikistan - MESECAM Tanzania - PAL Thailand - PAL Togo - MESECAM Tonga - NTSC Trinadad & Tabago - NTSC Tunesi - MESECAM Turkey - PAL Turkmenistan - MESECAM Uganda - PAL Ukraine - SECAM United Arab Emirates - PAL United Kingdom - PAL Uruguay - PAL USA - NTSC Uzbekistan - SECAM Venezuela - NTSC Vietnam - SECAM & NTSC Virgin Island (American) - NTSC Virgin Island (British) - NTSC Yemen - SECAM & NTSC Yugoslavia - PAL Zaire -MESECAM Zambia - PAL Zanzibar - PAL Zimbabwe - PAL MESECAM appears to be a different standard from standard SECAM, but what the differences are, I'm not entirely sure! I've managed to find a VCR which does NTSC/PAL/SECAM, but it isn't cheap! I'm not sure why it's so important that for a language lesson you need to view a video in colour. Your alternative to paying so much for an all in one VCR would be to import some from France itself. In my opinion this would probably be much cheaper!
alan-d Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Would it be cheaper in the long run to convert the videos to DVD?
cinewlyn Posted December 19, 2005 Author Posted December 19, 2005 I have come across this Samsung beast in my search, but dismissed it thinking I might find a cheaper one. Doesn't look like it. One option is to buy one, then use it to convert all their tapes to dvd. Does anyone know of any french suppliers who would ship to the uk.
Andrew_C Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Amazon.fr might be a good start. Beware though, once you have a SECAM player, it will output the signal in SECAM. You still need to convert to PAL. If I was at work I'd look up the name of the box I use. I think CPC do one, but I'm not sure. I did have the same problem, and once DVD writing became sensible, I did what has been suggested and converted them all. Saves having SECAM players scattered around the dept.
cinewlyn Posted December 19, 2005 Author Posted December 19, 2005 Yes CPC do one, Begs the question, will it convert the output from a PAL VCR playing a SECAM tape into a PAL output. Saves buying the french VCR at all.
deerwood Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Just a thought, Is it the VCR that's at fault or the TV you are playing them on? Is it possible to bypass the PAL system of your TV (by using Scart, RGB, or whatever) or maybe even use a monitor rather than a TV tuner?
Andrew_C Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Both need to be SECAM capable, or you need to use a converter to turn the VCR output into PAL.
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