timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Im trying to get this to work and not having much luck. Ive tried to follow the online video on smoothwalls tv channel on youtube but the GUI looks completely different. I have tried the following: Added a custom category in... Guardian >> Policy objects >> User Defined Name: Youtube-Header Clicked Advanced - Add Headers to Override: *add x-youtube-edu-filter: {my youtube education string}* Click Save Added a new policy in: Guardian >> Content Modification >> Manage Policies 1. Who - Yr7-11 Students 2. What - Youtube 3. Where - Everywhere 4. Action - Apply - Youtube-Header Click Confirm What do i do now? Am i on the right track? Has anyone got a quick how to on what i need to do please? Thanks
sparkeh Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Hmm can't really see anything different from our setup and works for us. So seems you are doing it right.
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 Am i right in thinking that the youtube user ID is needed? Is there any documents on how to get this setup from scratch? I might have the wrong account setup on youtube. I just dont know!!
sparkeh Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Yeah you need to put your ID in the header. When you say its not working, do you mean its not redirecting or is YouTube inaccessible?
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 Youtube is available however students can watch what they want. How do i know if ive got a youtube for schools account rather than a standard youtube account
sparkeh Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 What happens if you sign in and go here? http://www.youtube.com/account_school - it should have your school settings. Also, not sure if this is required, but always worth restarting the web proxy? 1
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 Ah, i get a sign up today... maybe i havent got a school account yet
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Its working now, thats what i needed to do, create a school account on top of a general youtube account. EDIT: Youtube defaults to youtube.com/education however if a student searches for minecraft it brings up all the minecraft videos and can view them. Surely thats not right is it? I would have thought youtube would block all videos and you tell it what to allow? Edited May 16, 2013 by timbo343
sparkeh Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Interesting, if I try and view a minecraft video I get "This video is unavailable with the Education Filter enabled. To view this video, the site network administrator will need to add it to a playlist".
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 Have you edited/added any subscriptions or are you using a blank subscription list?
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Maybe this is one for smoothwall then? Maybe @tom_newton might be able to help me on this one? Edited May 16, 2013 by timbo343
OB1 Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Are you inspecting HTTPS traffic? The header can't be added to a request that's encrypted if you're not inspecting.
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Ah, ill need to add youtube to the HTTPS inspection then? So if i have the following: Who: Everyone What: YouTube Where: Everywhere When: Always Action: Decrypt and inspect Policy Enabled Hopefully that should work. EDIT: That still works. I noticed the message Warning - To decrypt and inspect web content, users' browsers must have the Guardian CA certificate imported into their certificate store. How would i get the certificate to BYOD devices? Edited May 16, 2013 by timbo343
OB1 Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Ah, BYOD. There's a simpler solution (thanks @CJF). Paste the regex below into a custom category under 'URL Patterns' and block it for everyone you don't want to have unfettered access to youtube. ^https://(\w+\.)?youtube.com Edited May 16, 2013 by OB1 1
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 Thanks but what about my original problem with getting youtube.com/education to work only in school as im having a problem where the students can get to youtube.com/education but then searching for minecraft displays the searches and shows the videos.
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 I can confirm that students cannot see the comments as i have enforced the removal of comments however they are still able to see all videos
OB1 Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 These would appear to be videos google has vetted and allowed with the header in place. Try this video (It's one of our training videos). This should get blocked. If it doesn't there's a problem. Most of the results you're seeing related to minecraft are from a user who does computer game development tutorials. Let me know how you get on. 1
sparkeh Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 @timbo343 give me the url of a minecraft vid that is playing and I'll if it gets blocked here. 1
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 These would appear to be videos google has vetted and allowed with the header in place. Try this video (It's one of our training videos). This should get blocked. If it doesn't there's a problem. Most of the results you're seeing related to minecraft are from a user who does computer game development tutorials. Let me know how you get on. Ah yes it does :) maybe like you said im choosing videos that should be filtered but arent. @timbo343 give me the url of a minecraft vid that is playing and I'll if it gets blocked here. As for the minecraft stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOW4_V5R3qc Is there a way to filter videos in youtube. Ive search tasteless and played some random videos and also search porn. It blocked one video however played a video why porn isnt as good for you as something else - i cant remember the video title
sparkeh Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 As for the minecraft stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOW4_V5R3qc "This video is unavailable"
timbo343 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 Sorry, try this: Been working with impero and doesnt allow copy and paste.
OB1 Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Sorry, try this: Indeed, not an educational video in and of itself. His channel is part of youtube education though, not much we can do about that right now I'm afraid, Google decide what goes in and what doesn't. Looks like your header is functioning as intended though. There's a sticky here with some information on it that might be useful. 1
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