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Do Schools care about Green IT? (Part 2)


The guys who attended the eco-schools show had a great time. Most of the schools brought along students who were playing with some pretty cool SoftXpand set ups who would come accross then go and get their teachers. But the feeling from the team was that, schools and eco, equals recycling and pond building. Narrow I know, but it was just their feeling.

 

So for those guys n gals buying workstations in their hundreds or building their own mini data centres with thin client networks remember this;

 

"Green IT is about the best possible trade off between performance, economics and environmental impact". Each PC bought has already consumed around 1.7 tonnes of non renewable raw materials, been separately packed, transported and kept cool in a warehouse before being shipped again to the customer. Not to mention been built outside of the UK. If we continue at the same pace and continue to replace PCs with thin clients and stan alone PCs we will suffer at the hands of mother nature. A good resource to learn about our ignorance towards global climate change is anything written by Mark Lynas or Chris Goodall.

 

So there's my 2 pence worth. If I'd have been allowed to change the workshop subject to "Can you halve your desktop IT costs and have it pay for itself before it needs replacing?" I think I'dve got a much bigger audience.

 

Remember what happens accross the world quite literally affects us here when we speak of climate change.

 

What's the consensus?

Cheers,

Col

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localzuk

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One of the things you're mentioning there regarding thin clients isn't quite right. Thin clients do not need to be new machines. Roughly half our thin clients here are recycled old machines, with all their extraneous bits removed (HDDs, CDs, FDDs) and then running ThinStation. Cost to us? Adding a bit more capacity at the back end. Cost to the environment? Electricity only. The machines themselves are relatively low power anyway, using about 50W when running.

 

True, we have also bought new thin clients, but the were chosen due to their low energy usage (a dozen of them run at 12W each). And they didn't 'replace' any machines, those machines just moved elsewhere or were the above mentioned stripped down PCs now being used as thin clients.

 

Every purchase I make now considers energy consumption. Our printers are chosen due to their low standby power usage for example.

 

But yes, the main reason is down to cost. Our school electricity bill is forever increasing, and we need to stop that somehow.

verygreenpc

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Hey Localzuk,

Thanks for getting involved. Re-using old machines is a fantastic idea. The resellers are telling me that clients who do this often sacrifice a bit of performance and some software applications, however there's always a solution such as having a separate video editing suite etc. Love the fact you've recycled. Go-Green-PC have built a 4 user small form factor PC running SoftXpand. It started out at 10 watts, but after adding the extra graphics cards it went up to 40 watts total thus 10 watts per user; so as technology improves I think we can reduce power consumption further. I personally am trying to get a good handle on what a thin client means to data centre power consumption, networking, additional costs, etc. When we met with John Suffolk the Govt CIO he downloaded a whole heap of thin client data centre related problems on us to come back to him with answers on. Have you got any data on your power use before thin client and power use after? We've begun to recommend the re-actioning of old PCs, populating them with upgraded components too, because then the Green factor is improved further. But remember, the guys from MiniFrame who went to eco-schools came back with the idea that recycling is what Green is and I cannot fault your logic (unless your servers are now super beefed and pumping out the wattage!)

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