Deploying Adobe Flash x32 & x64

[FN-GM]

Hi,

 

I am just looking at deploying the latest adobe flash. For machines that are x64 and use both x32 and x64 IE would you install both x32 and x64 versions of flash or just x64 please?

 

Thanks

[Arthur]

The 64-bit installer contains both the x86 and x64 versions of Flash Player, so you only need to deploy that.

[FN-GM]

Thanks, whats the situation with Java? is that the same?

 

Thanks

[Arthur]

Unfortunately not. The 64-bit Java installer only contains the 64-bit version of Java.

[FN-GM]

Thought so that's what made me ask about flash. Can I install both x32 and x64 java?

[Arthur]

Installing both is fine, although you now have two Jave RE's to keep up-to-date.

[dhoward_westexetc]

Generally for Java you only need the x86 version for x64 operating systems if only 32-bit programs use it, it depends on what architecture the programs is written for.

 

Generally 32-bit complied programs use the x86 JRE, and 64-bit compiled programs the x64 JRE. Same applies for browsers regarding the JRE plugin. For example, LibreOffice is a 32-bit program, so it uses the 32-bit JRE even on Windows 7 x64.

Edited December 5, 2011 by dhoward_westexetc
fixed poor sentence structure

[dhoward_westexetc]

I have also noticed that few programs so far see the JRE 7 plugin. I deploy the current update to Java 6, which as of December 2nd is update 29.

[FN-GM]

Generally for Java you only need the x86 version for x64 operating systems if only 32-bit programs use it, it depends on what architecture the programs is written for.

 

Generally 32-bit complied programs use the x86 JRE, and 64-bit compiled programs the x64 JRE. Same applies for browsers regarding the JRE plugin. For example, LibreOffice is a 32-bit program, so it uses the 32-bit JRE even on Windows 7 x64.

 

But if your using x64 IE you will need x64 Java.

[dhoward_westexetc]

Spot on. But even on Win 7 x64 I still use the 32-bit IE (when I use IE) as I find that is more responsive, and that needs the 32-bit Java plugin. Likewise 64-bit Firefox, for example, will need 64-bit JRE when it is released fully.

[FN-GM]

Didnt know there was a 64bit firefox. I am struggling to get a x64 msi installer for java

[dhoward_westexetc]

Didnt know there was a 64bit firefox. I am struggling to get a x64 msi installer for java

 

There are 64-bit nightly builds, but they're development builds. Waterfox is also based on an x64 nightly and is located on sourceforge.

[Arthur]

I am struggling to get a x64 msi installer for Java

1.7.0.1: www.filehippo.com/download_jre_64/

1.6.0.29: www.filehippo.com/download_jre_64/10809/

 

I still use the 32-bit IE as I find that is more responsive

This will be fixed in Internet Explorer 10.

 

Internet Explorer 9 (32-bit) features a faster JavaScript engine than Internet Explorer 8's, internally known as Chakra. Chakra has a separate background thread for compiling JavaScript. Windows runs that thread in parallel on a separate core when one is available. Compiling in the background enables users to keep interacting with webpages while Internet Explorer 9 generates even faster code. By running separately in the background, this process can take advantage of modern multi-core machines.

 

[...]

 

The 64-bit version of Internet Explorer 9, which is not the default browser even on 64-bit systems, does not have the JIT compiler and performs up to 4 times slower. (Source)

Edited December 6, 2011 by Arthur

[dhoward_westexetc]

1.7.0.1: www.filehippo.com/download_jre_64/

1.6.0.29: www.filehippo.com/download_jre_64/10809/

 

 

This will be fixed in Internet Explorer 10.

 

Yay! Maybe web browsing with a 64-bit web browser will finally be viable!

 

You can also install the JRE on a PC, then go to the LocalLow folder, and an MSI and associated cab will be there in the Sun Folder. I know that is the case certainly for the x86 one, I have no experience of the 64-bit one though.

[Arthur]

I have no experience of the 64-bit one though.

The 64-bit MSI gets extracted to the same location. The folder just has an "_x64" on the end.

 

%UserProfile%\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_29_x64
%UserProfile%\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\jre1.7.0_01_x64

[dhoward_westexetc]

The 64-bit MSI gets extracted to the same location. The folder just has an "_x64" on the end.

 

%UserProfile%\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_29_x64
%UserProfile%\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\jre1.7.0_01_x64

Makes perfectly good sense to me!