Steve21 Posted August 9, 2020 Posted August 9, 2020 Good Afternoon All, Been doing a bunch of research on serverless setups recently and noticed there's a new post on theserverlessschool last week that talks about OneDrive using a local cache across workstations, and wondered if this is something new I've not heard about or whether there's some misunderstanding in how the cache works (normal one for FoD): The common accusation against a cloud first school is that you can’t access cloud data without some form of local storage or caching of files. When a class of 30 students opens a 10Gb media stored in the cloud everything will freeze as 300 Gb of data is pulled down a 100Mbs connection and two years ago that was probably true. Except now it doesn’t freeze because there is a local cache, just not the one you might expect. In a cloud first school the local cache is distributed almost all the workstation and managed directly by the One Drive or the Google File Stream client. This creates a distributed, fault tolerant local cache with access to TB’s of local solid state storage and almost limitless CPU cycles all talking to a back-end that is moving data to and from the site using predictive on-demand technologies. https://blog.theserverlessschool.net/2020/08/its-local-file-cache-just-not-as-you.html Sounds like it'd fix a lot of issues in regards to going Cloud and Internet losses etc, but can't seem to find anything related to this anywhere else! Many thanks, Steve
MicrodigitUK Posted August 10, 2020 Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) It’s not exactly server-less as you have to have somewhere to store your profile containers like a SMB file share, but this could be in Azure Blob storage! OneDrive with FSLogix profile containers is what you want to look at. FSLogix was designed for persistent Remote Desktop environments however it also works well on Windows 10 workstations not just in RDS setup Scenarios. I’m looking into implementing it for better OneDrive, Outlook and OneNote client cashing experience between workstations. With FSLogix you can just make it pick up where you left off on another PC, including OneDrive FoD.[emoji106] Edited August 10, 2020 by MicrodigitUK 1
Steve21 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Posted August 10, 2020 Aye, but with FSL it's still based on a per-user cache that's roaming effectively, not something that's shared is it? So yes it stops the need to create a new cache per machine, but certainly doesn't seem to work in the way that paragraph suggests (especially with it being a serverless blog ) The paragraph previously to the one I quoted above suggests the article is talking about something with cross-user ability: When a class of 30 students opens a 10Gb media stored in the cloud everything will freeze as 300 Gb of data is pulled down a 100Mbs connection and two years ago that was probably true. Except now it doesn’t freeze because there is a local cache, just not the one you might expect. Just sounds like it's suggesting it should be working like DropBox's LAN Sync does, accessing files across the network before going online. Thanks, Steve
mavhc Posted August 10, 2020 Posted August 10, 2020 If only it were a web page and thus could link to whatever the hell it's talking about. Try leaving a comment?
MicrodigitUK Posted August 10, 2020 Posted August 10, 2020 You can set up FSLogix location as some Azure storage. Then it would be server-less
chaplic Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 You can set up FSLogix location as some Azure storage. Then it would be server-less So we'll keep a close cached copy of the data.... in the cloud? That page is either talking BS or its just saying onedrive caches data on the PC hard drive. There isn't any local shared distributed access. Perhaps for downloads from windows update. FSLogix is as good as it gets which needs a server but at least it doesn't need backed up. 1
MicrodigitUK Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 FSLogix is as good as it gets which needs a server but at least it doesn't need backed up. You don't have to have to have a onsite server for FSLogix. You can put the containers in Azure. https://jkindon.com/2020/05/27/navigating-azure-storage-options-for-fslogix-containers/
chaplic Posted August 18, 2020 Posted August 18, 2020 You don't have to have to have a onsite server for FSLogix. You can put the containers in Azure. https://jkindon.com/2020/05/27/navigating-azure-storage-options-for-fslogix-containers/ So to speed up cloud access, have a local cache... in the cloud? Only makes sense if your compute is also in Azure - WVD or Citrix.
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