CAWJames Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Morning all, We already block most social networks and messengers on our LAN's, but we still need to get the message across(see what I did there) to staff that they shouldn't be using services like WhatsApp for business use and the conveying of any protected data on those devices, even installing it on a business device, as it will need access to the address book, and hold this in the US, where it has been proven that while they encrypt all data, they don't encrypt the metadata, and this can still provide a multitude of personal data to be floating around. Anyone already have a policy for this, and would like to share the wording used? I am struggling to not come across as a complete draconian dick(which I am, but I need my cloak of nice guyishness to stay intact ) Thanks James
FN-GM Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 It is part of our AUP. Something along the lines of "You will only use approved communication services for school business" It doesn't need its own policy. 1
elsiegee40 Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 I agree it needs to be part of the AUP and the wording above means it doesn’t go out of date because it fails to bar certain apps.
CAWJames Posted June 15, 2018 Author Posted June 15, 2018 Yes, it will be put like that in the policy, but I really want a paragraph to why to stop people asking loads of questions I have gone with, so far in my draft: WhatsApp is a global messaging platform and as such is a great way to communicate with others, but it is not fit for use in business under the terms of the GDPR and general compliance. When the app is installed you give permission for them to access your address book and other aspects of the device being used, and this data is then communicated to servers in the US, where we have no control and it has been proven that while the data is encrypted end to end the metadata is not, this metadata contains: -Your name, mobile number, IP address, location, mobile network and your mobile handset type. -With whom you are chatting, for how long and at what time. And your contacts as well. Also as the data is encrypted end to end, we have no access to that data once out in the world so therefore no control over that data, only the sender and the recipient have access, and that causes problems if the data is about another party. Just not sure how much of that is rollocks and how much is truth, I think it all still stands, but things change in the quick world of messaging!
TechMonkey Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 I wouldn't bother. None of that needs to be in a policy and if WhatsApp dies or TheNextBigThing comes along you will be expected to describe that as well. Keep it generic. In communicating the change you can give your reasoning, but really, the policy is the policy and has been decided by management, it is too late to question and if they don't like it they need to resign.
CAWJames Posted June 15, 2018 Author Posted June 15, 2018 sorry, just to clarify, this is not wording for the actual policy, this wording for an all staff email to prepare them/guidance.
MartinT Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 We use WhatsApp for SLT communications as it's secure and immediate. It's especially useful for late night or early morning incidents. If anyone can think of anything better that works across all platforms then we'll consider using it.
CAWJames Posted June 15, 2018 Author Posted June 15, 2018 Secure doesn't mean compliant. I suppose as long as you have mitigated risks, no protected data to be shared, make sure the app doesn't have any access to any protected data on the device it is being used on, etc, etc. I'm still not trusting the platform as far as I can fling it!
MartinT Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Understood, but we're only using it to communicate issues, never to transmit documents or personal data.
Foresthippy Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 We use WhatsApp for SLT communications as it's secure and immediate. It's especially useful for late night or early morning incidents. If anyone can think of anything better that works across all platforms then we'll consider using it. If you're using Office 365, have you looked at Microsoft Teams? John
MartinT Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 We install 365 for students but are mostly on full Office 2016 for staff.
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