DynoRod Plumbing - What a Joke! (SEE PHOTO)

[oalcock]

Below shows an image of the pipework under my kitchen sink, which was left after a dynorod plumber fixed a dripping pipe. Before when the pipe was dripping, the pipes were professionally clipped. I have complained to the manager at my local dynorod branch and he said that the plumbing engineers don't carry pipe clips! What a joke! What are your views?

 

http://tinypic.com/r/5xpgg1/7

[oalcock]

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[Gatt]

Nice! Very professional! Edited May 9, 2011 by Gatt

[oalcock]

It's OK, it's uploaded now :-) Thanks anyway though :-)

[creese]

I think a clip is the least of your problems.

 

Why the joint between your valve and the washing machine tap? Was it a competition to see how many joints and connections could be fitted in to 6" of pipe?

[Gatt]

@oalcock - haha! I noticed after my original post it had gone up and editted it - but the net's a bit sluggish here today :|

 

BTW, is that string or plumbers tape!

[Jamman960]

I'd accept that as a temporary fix - ie wait here while I go buy some pipe clips but as a perminent fix its no way near acceptable.

 

I'd say you don't carry your wallet/cheque book - atleast not until jobs are done properly

[chazzy2501]

The pictures are not working for me!

[creese]

They obviously don't carry any of these either.

 

15mm x ¾" Washing Machine Valve with Check Valve | Screwfix.com

 

Using this would cut out the majority of the pipework and cut down on the chance of failure.

[Guest Guest]

Its better than what the plumper did at my house thats for sure! Atleast your pipes are straight, none of mine are, not one.

[creese]

The problem is, washing machines and Dishwashers tend to stop and start their supply of water often and quite abruptly. This means a lot of harsh movement in the system. The cord will allow this and will weaken and loosen the joints in quite a short time. This system has a lot of joints to fail.

[alexsanger]

Hope you gave him somewhere to hang his stetson and tether his horse while he did all that hard work!

[plexer]

That's awesome, I think it was going to be used as an example of all the types of fitting you can have, push fit, solder, compression

 

Looks like some plumbers thread.

 

Why did you have dynorod to do a real plumbers job?

 

Ben

[rad]

http://http://i55.tinypic.com/5xpgg1.jpg

 

Ahh - website is blocked for me too hence no pics

[bodminman]

The bit between the supply valve and the joint looks like new copper!

[maniac]

If it were me I'd have fixed it myself, plumbing isn't actually that difficult. The biggest mistake people make? Over tightening compression joints, that's when they leak. Here's my kitchen sink just after I'd plumbed it in - No leaks, nice straight pipework and only took me about an hour.

 

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/mredman/Misc/IMG_9723.jpg

 

As for the OP question, I wouldn't have paid them if they left it like that, simple as.

[oalcock]

It's a contract with british gas that I have got free for a year! So I don't pay them. Nice pipework btw!

[creese]

You may not be paying them but you would have a job claiming from your insurance for flooding if one or all of those joints fail. An awful lot of water would pump out of there.

[TechMonkey]

The biggest mistake people make? Over tightening compression joints, that's when they leak.

 

As a plumbing n00b but interested can you explain this? I would have thought a compression joint should be nice and tight to keep the compression?

[bodminman]

Good old wiki:

 

It is important to the integrity of a compression fitting that excessive force be avoided when tightening the nut. If the nut is overtightened, the ferrule frequently deforms improperly causing the joint to fail. Indeed, overtightening is the most common cause of leaks in compression fittings. A good rule of thumb is to tighten the nut first by hand until it is too difficult to continue and then tighten the nut a half-turn more with the aid of a wrench; the actual amount varies with the size of the fitting, as a larger one requires less tightening. The fitting is then tested: If slight weeping is observed, the fitting is slowly tightened until the weeping stops.

[creese]

or use a soldered joint...

[maniac]

As a plumbing n00b but interested can you explain this? I would have thought a compression joint should be nice and tight to keep the compression?

 

They need to be tight, but if you over tighten them you will distort the pipe and it'll drip - it's only thin copper and is very easy to distort. Once you get it to that stage, no amount of tightening will stop it dripping, infact it can make it worse. There's no real way to describe how tight then should be - its something you have to be shown or learn yourself. I was taught by a friend of mine who's a gas fitter.

 

or use a soldered joint...

 

Yeah never got on with those, despite being shown many times how to solder them properly, I just never get it right.

Edited May 9, 2011 by maniac

[plexer]

That's why I hate compression fittings just the thought that they might have gone wrong allthough having said that I've never had one leak so far, I use soldered joints where I can.

 

Got a new shower to plumb in at the weekend.

 

Ben

[cpjitservices]

Thats a disgrace - begs the question indeed of why that valve is there why would you need to stop the flow of water there in that portion of the copper pipe ? anyways I hope you didnt pay!