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    Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    Ric has asked me to put together a guide on Cacti. So I'm wondering what my intended audience would like to see in such a guide beyond the basics?

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    What is Cacti?

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    I was thinking it was a new geek thing to have Cacti in the office

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    Err... I use it but really found it the simplest piece of software I've come across to set up. Why would a guide be needed? *confused*

    But if you want suggestions:

    How to install on a normal system (ie. Ubuntu )
    How to add your various devices
    How to add graphs to your various devices
    How to structure your various graphs into a useful structure (including picking out individual, important, ones to place under a single page - such as server traffic etc...)

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    What I had in mind was pretty much what localzuk has said.

    I would say that it should be compiled from source to be distro specific (particularly as Debian-based distros often use their own file locations).

    I was also thinking of some notes on what particular metrics should be added - i.e. what is useful and any stumbling-blocks that should be avoided. For instance the best way to manage a trunk on a HP Procurve as well as non-standard metrics such as switch temperatures and CPU utilisation.

    To give people an idea of the bigger picture... The idea is to eventually have a number of these documents so that people (who don't necessarily have a lot of experience with these things) can run through them and set up a number of open source solutions for performing daily tasks.

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    For instance the best way to manage a trunk on a HP Procurve as well as non-standard metrics such as switch temperatures and CPU utilisation.
    That's great but I don't have any clever HP Procuvre kit like that.

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    @Geoff: If you check www.nagiosexchange.org you will find the relevant OIDs for CPU utilisation, temperature, etc. on the Procurve kit

    The trunk ports simply come up as port numbers. For example, if you have a 24-port switch and ports 23 and 24 are combined in a trunk, the metrics for ports 23 and 24 will show the amount of data flowing through the individual ports whilst port 25 will show metrics for the trunk.

    Since we will wiki-fy this, members will be able to add config examples to the end so that different brands of kit and different metrics can be monitored.

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    Ric has asked me to put together a guide on Cacti. So I'm wondering what my intended audience would like to see in such a guide beyond the basics?
    Extended paragraphs

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    If you check www.nagiosexchange.org you will find the relevant OIDs for CPU utilisation, temperature, etc. on the Procurve kit
    Indeed, I had managed to forget last night that we do actually have a 2650 in Room 17. So I've gone and plugged in the SNMP checks into Nagios.

    Have you already cooked up the relevant XML configuration for Cacti to graph memory/cpu loads of ProCurves?

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    @Geoff: Nope... you can have a quick look at my Nagios ones though...

    Code:
    ##### Checks for HP Procurve Switches
    define command{
            command_name    rmc_check_hpmemoryfree
            command_line    $USER1$/check_snmp -H $HOSTADDRESS$ -C $ARG1$ -o .1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.14.11.5.1.1.2.1.1.1.6.1 -t 5 -w $ARG2$ -c $ARG3$ -u bytes -l free
            }
    define command{
            command_name    rmc_check_hp_cpu
            command_line    $USER1$/check_snmp -H $HOSTADDRESS$ -C $ARG1$ -o .1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.14.11.5.1.9.6.1.0 -t 5  -w $ARG2$ -c $ARG3$ -u % -l "5min cpu"
            }
    define command{
            command_name    rmc_check_hpfan
            command_line    $USER1$/check_snmp -H $HOSTADDRESS$ -C $ARG1$ -o .1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.14.11.1.2.6.1.4.1 -w $ARG2$ -c $ARG3$ -l 'Fan status'
            }
    define command{
            command_name    rmc_check_hppower
            command_line    $USER1$/check_snmp -H $HOSTADDRESS$ -C $ARG1$ -o .1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.14.11.1.2.6.1.4.2 -w $ARG2$ -c $ARG3$ -l 'Power Supply status'
            }
    define command{
            command_name    rmc_check_hptemp
            command_line    $USER1$/check_snmp -H $HOSTADDRESS$ -C $ARG1$ -o .1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.14.11.1.2.6.1.4.4 -w $ARG2$ -c $ARG3$ -l 'Temprature status'
            }
    define command{
            command_name    rmc_check_hppower_4100
            command_line    $USER1$/check_snmp -H $HOSTADDRESS$ -C $ARG1$ -o .1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.14.11.1.2.6.1.4.3 -w $ARG2$ -c $ARG3$ -l 'Power Supply status'
            }

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    Graphs are nice and indeed I use Cacti, although probobly not to is't fullest potential however I tend to rely on NAGIOS more than anything for segment, hardware, and service failures including notification on and off site.

    I would be more than happy to hear how to fully utilise cacti in addition to nagios.

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    Difference between Cacti and Nagios?

    The metrics would be a fantastic idea. I know here when we set up a passler monitoring station it took about 3 attempts before we were happy and plenty of maths to get to there!

    Only thing I would realllllly ask for is assume nothing. I really get narked at these beginner guides that forget that some trying this aren't Linux and are possibly using this as a way into Linux. Then they write something like:
    "Then exchange the partition codes and mount points in the usual way".
    At that point I scream go green and stomp around abit. Possibly the reason I have loved finding the apt-get in Ubuntu but I also have it in the back of my mind that I'm not sure where things are going and what they are doing.

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    Nagios gives you an overview of whats happening now. Cacti lets you see what happened yesterday, last week, or further.

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    Re: Suggestions for EduGeek Cacti Guide

    @TechMonkey: I realise tht not everyone knows Linux... this is why the Nagios and Cacti guides will assume only that the base system is installed. They will then be written in a step-by-step fashion to the point where a simple configuration is up and running.

    I intend the guides to be extended by the community with the addition of example configs and uses.

    BTW... Nagios also lets you know when it all goes tits up!



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