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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    Is that a 2000 server?

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    Geoff,
    Tis 2003 Server, there is obviously a difference hence your question !!
    Go on then educate me !!

    Ta, Roger

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    Restricting access to usb pens has pros and cons. I can understand the necessary paranoia about having a device that's capable of holding a complete O/S and goodness knows what else as boot & root kit.

    I would think having a machine or three per room that were open to all could be very beneficial, particualry with the annoying habit of even simple files growing to amazing sizes, that would have been considered grossly inflated even two or thee years ago. Kids with the new DIDa family of qualifications are going to need USB pens/portable hdds to be able to take their coursework to and from home. It's inescapable. I would rather have am ironclad sheepdip where kids had to have their devices scanned before before being allowed onto a pukka networked PC. Would there not be a way to link an encrypted token, valid for that period/day, onto a freshly scanned device. It wouldn't have top be a very big file, only big enough to hold something like Blowfish/MD5 key?

    I don't know about Windows but with a Linux box you could do this and restrict path of files taken from the USB device to a holding area if there was any doubt.

    Any other thoughts or ideas or tweaks to this idea?
    Because, remember, at the end of the day, those of us who work in schools, teahers, admin, support, whoever we are have to constantly ask ourselves this question: is what we are doing/going to do benefit the kids' educations. And being to allow kids to port large files vis a US pen to my mind will. And it's a lot betterthan having the "cherubs" being to send stuff (big stuff, little stuff, contraband stuff via email.

    I sit back and awit the scorch marks to appear on my screen. :-)

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    Welcome SmartArt BTW . Good to have your input.

    The requirements of DIDa are pushing us all to the limits I think. There are nice solutions to cater for the ePortfolio - but they're all very expensive, as in 'the opposite' of what most schools will be able to implement for some time.

    Surely there's also substantial educational benefit in the discipline of keeping file sizes small, and the efficient management of online work? In the past we've turned a blind eye to the bloated files created by MS Office, which isn't clever.

    Our whole authority impose a 2mb limit on email attachments, so that's never going to be an alternative to large file movement here.

    As is being said tight restriction on USB attached storage is possible, and something I do along with many others. I suppose the question is: what importance do you place on the security of data on your system. I think it folly that schools are at liberty to decide thier own policies on this. The law doesn't descriminate of course but then that's apprioaching the problem from the wrong end imho.

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    @SmartArt: It isn't practical to allow access on some machines and not others - we strive to make everything the same to give the pupils a common platform for teaching and learning... I'm sure as a teacher you prefer to be able to tell the kids how to do something on one machine and have them able to on all.

    The other issues associated with USB pens would also not be addressed - data protection and the introductuction of viruses to name just two.

    Surely the ability to send a a multi-megabyte email will be sufficient for most users.

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    Quote Originally Posted by mark
    Our whole authority impose a 2mb limit on email attachments...
    On their end - or at our end?

    i.e. on your NGFL box? or on the email box that we all send to?

    The head will be moaning like hell if its the same for all of us - 2MB is a little stingy - publisher files anyone?


    Nath

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    Thier end [on the incoming mail box] - and it's been that way for the last 10 years I think! Where've you bin??

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    The head has been sending some large files to home etc and back so I'm she hasnt mentioned that anythings wrong [apart from the recent nominet thing hehe] so I can only think that that cant be the case anymore mark.

    A 5th former send an attachment of her work home to work on....er...at home the other day - last week i think. She hasnt mentioned anything either so maybe ts your NGFL system :P :P

    Nath.

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    You dare challenge SquirrelMail!!!

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    Hell yes :P :P

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    Re: Restrict Access To USB Devices

    The Jules says it's now unlimited 'she thinks' Nath! So egg on my face huh!

    Then she said 'if we get very large emails - sorta 30Mb - that clog up the system, we have to manually delete those.



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