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    A thread where users can share their experiences and past experiences with other people who are looking to implement a wireless in their schools.....

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    Hate it! Laptops are the bain of our schools life - partly due to the fact the wireless isn't great (cisco kit is good but 100mb connections 30 laptops isnt) We have removed all but 2 sets of laptops and have moved to ICT suites - they are more reliable

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    We've implemented Ruckus here. Not being used in highly dense situations yet, but it has been flawless for the 25 or so laptops that get used around the school so far.

    Just make sure you keep it up to date, and use 1Gbit connectivity to wireless N access points.

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    Agreed, wireless should only be seen as a backup option but its used as first option here and other companies will be the same

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    One school works great (Ruckus) Another school, nightmare!! (Trapeze) Due to the safety wire mesh in the classroom windows and school doors apparently.

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    HP MSM422 AP's with MSM760 utter rubbish even when we upgrade to Cisco Network with 1000Gbit to AP. It never works Consistently.

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    Wireless in education is exactly the same as wireless in any other place - it's either slow and unreliable, or it's hideously expensive.

    I am clinging onto wires for as long as possible!!!

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    I thought this I have got a solution called Aerohive, not sure if you have heard of them. They are making some great progress in education both sides of the pond. I have got my system implemented and have multiple users around the school. All AP's are fully featured and do not have a costly slow controller!!!!!!

    I thought wifi in schools was a bad idea to be honest, but I have now had this solution in for 6 months, was so impressed i have now rolled out more AP's lighting up new areas of the school. I am also working on a new project for a large secondary school down the road, rolling out Aerohive there. They run VOIP aswell for their teachers and staff around the school..... if you are having problems and looking at upgrading definately would recomend aerohive guys very intuitive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    Hate it! Laptops are the bain of our schools life - partly due to the fact the wireless isn't great (cisco kit is good but 100mb connections 30 laptops isnt) We have removed all but 2 sets of laptops and have moved to ICT suites - they are more reliable

    are you using .11n devices, you will have this problem running this ammount of users on a network that doesnt support .11n, most cosco kit is crap i used it in the past. theres about 20 different costs and uses a costly controller........ as i was once told by someone 1% of ciscos revenue comes from wireless..... so do you really think they do much with it?

    no they just buy small companies and stick their name on it, then all the people from these companies leave and go to specialist companies. I would advise looking at solutions such as aerohive merakia aruba if you want to get the best in wireless, they are specifically wireless companies!!!

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    Cisco managed wireless with max. 30 laptops:1 AP (54g) at any one time plus >18 staff laptops connecting through WiFi around the school = great experience overall. Only thing that slows is trying to deploy larger software installs or bandwidth hungry stuff like video.

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    Has anyone else noticed how almost every one of nicko17's posts is promoting Aerohive, or starting a thread in which they can promote it? Maybe its just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicko17 View Post
    are you using .11n devices, you will have this problem running this ammount of users on a network that doesnt support .11n, most cosco kit is crap i used it in the past. theres about 20 different costs and uses a costly controller........ as i was once told by someone 1% of ciscos revenue comes from wireless..... so do you really think they do much with it?

    no they just buy small companies and stick their name on it, then all the people from these companies leave and go to specialist companies. I would advise looking at solutions such as aerohive merakia aruba if you want to get the best in wireless, they are specifically wireless companies!!!
    i didnt purchase i don't use it i don't really care - we only use it now for the pe staffs laptops (about 5) and registers and the 6th formers personal ones - plus our mobiles so we can setup fog tasks around the school without logging in.

    Plus i have looked at aerohive before and wasnt really that impressed - would probly look at ruckus anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveg View Post
    Has anyone else noticed how almost every one of nicko17's posts is promoting Aerohive, or starting a thread in which they can promote it? Maybe its just me.

    Steve
    Yup. I've noticed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicko17 View Post
    are you using .11n devices, you will have this problem running this ammount of users on a network that doesnt support .11n, most cosco kit is crap i used it in the past. theres about 20 different costs and uses a costly controller........ as i was once told by someone 1% of ciscos revenue comes from wireless..... so do you really think they do much with it?

    no they just buy small companies and stick their name on it, then all the people from these companies leave and go to specialist companies. I would advise looking at solutions such as aerohive merakia aruba if you want to get the best in wireless, they are specifically wireless companies!!!
    Cisco has a policy of "eating it's own dogfood" (ie using it's own kit and making sure it works in a demanding environment) and has wireless all around it sites worldwide. When first implemented at Bedfont Lakes it was slow but pretty soon went to being an indispensable and extremely reliable part of the infrastructure.

    Whilst it is true that Cisco has acquired a number of companies (just taken over Tandberg), it's equally true that it's rejected approaches by many others to be acquired.

    Revenue for the latest quarter = $10.84 billion. 1% of a single quarters revenue sounds good to me.

    Never heard of Aerohive so can't comment.

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    hideously expensive Meru network here. 802.11n, Student VLAN, 1GB/s uplinks, 4GB/s to controller.

    Works fine in high density, can walk from one end of the school to the other without loosing a ping.

    Wasn't cheap though



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