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    I think on Ruckus, you can set a max rate per WLAN, Stuart will be able to confirm. We don't use it though.

    While you say that Meraki looks easier, and I wouldn't know about that product, Ruckus is really one of the easist systems I have ever used.

    Also, if I was looking at it, I would be very interested to hear the answer to Stuart's last question regarding what happens if the internet goes down.

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    Thats right so you can rate limit on a per client basis per SSID. In V9 SSID time scheduling will be available. This is a great feature for schools that allow students access via their own devices, ipads etc.. but don't want the SSID broadcasting between certain hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid View Post
    Have you considered Aruba. Aruba is widely considered to be the best wireless solution in the world and is used by the likes of Microsoft in their UK showroom office. Aruba are always willing to take on the likes of Ruckas in terms of pricing. Aruba has 2nd to none manageability and is far superior to Ruckas in every way and you may be suprised by the pricing. If you would like more details then please give me a shout.

    Aruba Networks
    It can't be better than Ruckus, they use Omni directional antenna’s, right?

    How does it deal with RF management, interference, client QoS, noise-flow, roaming?

    Comparison Hotsheet - http://tools.net-ctrl.com/ruckuscomp/Aruba-Ruckus.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuartWhite View Post
    It can't be better than Ruckus, they use Omni directional antenna’s, right?

    How does it deal with RF management, interference, client QoS, noise-flow, roaming?

    Comparison Hotsheet - http://tools.net-ctrl.com/ruckuscomp/Aruba-Ruckus.pdf
    How does Ruckus compare to Meru? We have a Meru network, which seems to do all these things. It's pretty good so far, and all runs on a single channel, so no overlap issues which means you can walk from one side of hte building to the other with a constant ping. The device essentially stays on the same AP (it thinks it does anyway) - no connect/disconnects.

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    Single channel ay, Very few Meru systems actually have that enabled since it just causes issues and doesn’t generally work, but glad it’s working for you

    What happens when a source of interference comes into play on the channel the SCA is using? Do all AP's dynamically change to a new channel? And then what happens if they switch to channel 6 but at one of the building there is too much noise on channel 6? Does it just have to suffer or does it change channel again to say...11 but now at the other end of the building channel 11 is struggling.

    In theory it is great if there is no interference at all which is EXTREMMELY hard to achieve unless you live in an open field miles from civilization.

    But when it does work on that small scale it can be productive. It is still leaking unused and unmanaged RF energy in all directions which just causes interference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid View Post
    Meru is a better solution than Ruckas. Ruckas is an entry level solution which is why its usually the cheapest. People who use ruckas usually think its very good until they see another system like Meru, Aruba, Cisco and then they realise that its actually quite limited in comparison.
    I saw an Aruba system at a local school. I wasn't that impressed with the amount of concurrent connections they could manage. Perhaps our overall network was a bit better. The single channel Meru system really sold me though.

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    Can you actually keep this on topic rather than just saying Aruba = better than Ruckus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid View Post
    Meru is a better solution than Ruckas. Ruckas is an entry level solution which is why its usually the cheapest. People who use ruckas usually think its very good until they see another system like Meru, Aruba, Cisco and then they realise that its actually quite limited in comparison.
    Ruckus (Ruckas) understand RF management. Other solutions are great if you want to do fancy firewalls and ACL's but at the end of the day why do people buy wireless ---- To get a reliable wireless signal - This is what Ruckus focus on and this is why Ruckus rule over all others when it comes down to Wi-Fi just search for the comparisons tests done by 3rd parties.

    In fact Cisco didn't even show up at the 802.11n 2.4GHz test last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuartWhite View Post
    Single channel ay, Very few Meru systems actually have that enabled since it just causes issues and doesn’t generally work, but glad it’s working for you

    What happens when a source of interference comes into play on the channel the SCA is using? Do all AP's dynamically change to a new channel? And then what happens if they switch to channel 6 but at one of the building there is too much noise on channel 6? Does it just have to suffer or does it change channel again to say...11 but now at the other end of the building channel 11 is struggling.

    In theory it is great if there is no interference at all which is EXTREMMELY hard to achieve unless you live in an open field miles from civilization.

    But when it does work on that small scale it can be productive. It is still leaking unused and unmanaged RF energy in all directions which just causes interference.
    We did a full 2.4 and 5GhZ wireless survey before install, this identified some RF problems (active Infrared alarm system) which were rectified. The Meru will identify (and block?) rogue access points. It is quite a large install (65 x 802.11n Access points) and not had any trouble yet. Install was quite simple, the controller does all the VLAN's as well for the different wireless networks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    We did a full 2.4 and 5GhZ wireless survey before install, this identified some RF problems (active Infrared alarm system) which were rectified. The Meru will identify (and block?) rogue access points. It is quite a large install (65 x 802.11n Access points) and not had any trouble yet. Install was quite simple, the controller does all the VLAN's as well for the different wireless networks.
    How does it block rouge AP's? how does it avoid their interference?

    Its obviously working quite well for you, just interested to know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuartWhite View Post
    How does it block rouge AP's? how does it avoid their interference?

    Its obviously working quite well for you, just interested to know?
    Rogue Access Points and Backdoors
    The Meru WIPS continuously scans for rogue APs using the same access points that are serving clients. No separate overlay is necessary, as Meru's dual-radio access points can scan on all bands even while serving real time traffic such as voice and video – something not possible with many legacy microcell APs. For simple coexistence with other networks, administrators can white list legitimate APs that are not part of the Meru system. The WIPS also prevents attackers from setting up their own backdoors into a network by detecting and blocking ad-hoc networks.
    Meru Networks | Security

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    Arguing over two products doesn't generally help the OP - he's after facts/figures rather than Aruba is better.

    You've not actually stated why Aruba is better by the way other than saying Ruckus is entry level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid View Post
    Is this not the topic

    We're thinking of going for one of 3 options with the wifi depending on budget and requirements...

    •full campus coverage
    •public areas only (guest access for cafe etc)
    •public areas + mobile laptop cupboards + AP on the back


    therefore surely it is on topic to say that Aruba is the way forward, I do not work for Aruba, I am simply here giving my indepandant advice. I could quite easily sell ruckas but I prefer to give my customers the facts so they can make up there own mind. The truth is that Ruckas and Aruba could both do the solution and so could many other solutions including Meru, Cisco, Netgear etc. But it is my professional opinion that Aruba will give you the best results. I'm Stuart White is going to disagree but he would because he is not independant.

    My advise would be to speak to an independant specialist because a solution of this type is not cheap no matter who you choose.
    Not going to Lie, i am a bit of a Ruckus fan boy. This is the product i recommend that we sell here after extensive testing.

    We tested all the other names as well and this one came out on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid View Post
    The rouge AP is identified, blocked and if necessary bombarded with dated to render it useless. Not sure how Ruckas deals with it though :-)
    OK, so containment is a good thing in wireless but allot of implementations of containment is useless as a lot of the time it just sends out shed loads of de-auth packets to legitimate AP's.
    It's still not going to bloke the interference.

    So is University of Lausanne with 8,000 AP's and Harvard University entry level...ermm? Not to mention lighting up the entire east coast of India with Ruckus AP’s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid View Post
    I'm not getting into an arguement about it. Ruckas is an entry level management wireless system if compared to Cisco/Aruba and that is fact. I also didnt say it was rubbish because it isnt (I wouldnt sell it if it was)
    Sorry i just can't see how you think University of Lausanne, Harvard Univeristy, Indian East coast, all BP garages down the westcoast of the US is entry level.



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