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    Good switches to go for...

    Hi, I work in a Primary school in London, which currently has a selection some old and run down 100mbps switches (non managed) and some allied telesys managed not so run down switches. I want to replace the older ones with some new managed switches.

    I had my eye on two,

    HP Procurve 2610-48 port
    and HP Procurve 2610 -24port

    But was supprised to read that the induvidual ports on these only support 100mbs.

    Can anyone else recomend any switches for the same sort of price which support 1000mbps? Or do you think the two I have mentioned will do run a primary network nicely for the next 5 or so years?
    We currently have no 1000mbps switches, we have a windows server 2008 system and windows 7 clients all for admin and a rm cc4 network with around 80 laptops and 30 desktop pcs mainly windows 7, but some windows xp.

    Thanks

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    There are some versions of the ProCurve 2500 which do gigabit.

    EDIT: 2510G-24 & 2510G-48 are the ones you're looking for.

    There's also the 1810-24G. However these don't use the management interface as the rest of the procurve range and can't be used with ProCurve manager.
    Last edited by K.C.Leblanc; 24th September 2010 at 08:42 AM.

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    We use the 2510g-48s in a couple of places and they seem to do the job well apart from their requirement for hp branded fiber sfp modules

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    apart from their requirement for hp branded fiber (sic) sfp modules
    That's a requirement on pretty much all procurve kit though.

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    Procurve have a lifetime warrant. We had one go down last month. It was over three years old. An engineer came in and replaced it FOC, which was great because the cab is in a dreadful for access. Only trouble, he didn't reconnect it properly and I had to hang from my toenails anyway!

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    We use Netgear GS724T gigabit switches. They are rock solid and have SFP modules as well.

    Best thing is they look awesome :P


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    Again I would vote Procurve - no complaints about them

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    i use GS748TP for net gear never had a problem there gig with 2 SFPs looks like zag pic above. you need deep wall cabs for them .. but they are poe to and are able to run cisco kit (like phones) just select the option from the web interface.. there not much more then the GS724T.. i have 5 of them running fine for 2 years and they come with a life time warranty like all blue box netgear kit..

    it has this stupid add on that checks how long your cable runs are....

    check the specs..

    im a HP (Highly priced) Fan to for server and wks and netgear for networking..

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    3com baseline 2028 smartswitch does the job nicely for us. supports 1GB, sfp modules provided seperately. Nice management console.

    CP-Ltd supplied all of ours

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    HP Procurve for all our replacement switches here, though we have some ancient D-Links which continue to give excellent service. Only gigabit backbone, no gigabit to desktop, but very happy with performance and reliability (kiss of death!)

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    another procurve vote here

    all our switches are procurve


    make sure when you buy on you get a managed one or you done get the web interface of cli I believe


    The managed one are generally the models with the 'g' at the end

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    HP/3com 4500's for edge switches
    Are branded HP now
    Support for 3Com® Switch 4500 Family Overview Support and Registration
    Use 4500G's or 4800G's for near-edge switches and a couple of 5500G's at the core and you will be fine.
    It's not worth getting gigabit desktops until you have 10 gigabit backbone. The gigabit desktops will just overload the backbone (and if they don't - you don't need them anyway)
    The 4800G's and the 5500G's will support 10Gb/s modules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    It's not worth getting gigabit desktops until you have 10 gigabit backbone. The gigabit desktops will just overload the backbone (and if they don't - you don't need them anyway)
    Rubbish, you can team multiple 1GBit links for the backbone and each 1GBit workstation is not using all of the bandwidth all of the time. Even if you have 10 machines hitting it at absolute full throttle (practical impossibility with standard usage) on an agreagated 2GB link then that is 200Mbit which is much better than 100Mbit. You do not need 10GBit backbone links to experience a very noticable speedup from 1GBit to the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    Rubbish, you can team multiple 1GBit links for the backbone and each 1GBit workstation is not using all of the bandwidth all of the time. Even if you have 10 machines hitting it at absolute full throttle (practical impossibility with standard usage) on an agreagated 2GB link then that is 200Mbit which is much better than 100Mbit. You do not need 10GBit backbone links to experience a very noticable speedup from 1GBit to the edge.
    depends on how many machines you have on the uplink really. 10 and you will probably be ok. We have nearer 50 or 100 machines on some of our 2GB uplinks. it would be ludicrous for us to give them all 1GB/s if more than a few tried to use the available bandwidth then no-one else gets a look-in. Better to limit all clients. Historically we used to have one IT suite linked on a 1GB/s uplink!, they were only 100Mb/s desktops but we needed to limit them to 10Mb/s just so they could all save at once (large photoshop files) , as soon as tcp windowing came in on the 100Mb/s link everything slowed down to a crawl - it was faster using 10mb/s than 100mb/s in this instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    depends on how many machines you have on the uplink really. 10 and you will probably be ok. We have nearer 50 or 100 machines on some of our 2GB uplinks. it would be ludicrous for us to give them all 1GB/s if more than a few tried to use the available bandwidth then no-one else gets a look-in. Better to limit all clients. Historically we used to have one IT suite linked on a 1GB/s uplink!, they were only 100Mb/s desktops but we needed to limit them to 10Mb/s just so they could all save at once (large photoshop files) , as soon as tcp windowing came in on the 100Mb/s link everything slowed down to a crawl - it was faster using 10mb/s than 100mb/s in this instance.
    Nearly all our machines are provided with 1Gb to desktop, a few smaller areas are left, but not many. Multicasting with WDS means I can actually use them all at once too. Uplink contention has never been an issue.

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