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    Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    I appreciate I must sometimes sound like a complete n00b at the best of times but in this respect I really am... VPN is a complete mystery to me as I've never had the opportunity to play with it before now... So basically I'd like to get myself prepped up and ready so I can sort out a VPN link from my home/office to school when a VPN link is finally opened up in 6 weeks time.

    What I'm intending to sort out is a smoothwall box at my end along with the extended defence pre-mod and as far as I've gathered from SchoolsICT I'll be able to VPN throught the coming Bull Network to our site.. but what I'm unsure about at this juncture is whether I'll need to have a similar box at the school end, ready to hook in.

    Not a problem if I do as I'm intending to put in a proxy server here anyway and smoothie would do the job easily enough.

    What's key to this thogh is the fact that I have no partner who I can plonk at one end while I test and tweak the other so I need to get this pretty much on the money.... So, can anyone share a fairly idiot proof (no prizes for spotting the idiot in question :P) guide to getting organised so minimal bug testing is required?

    Hand holding much appreciated.

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    Do schoolsICT run a VPN server or are they expecting you to run your own?

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    Do schoolsICT run a VPN server or are they expecting you to run your own?
    That'll be my first question to ask them I guess...

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    How many users are going to use the VPN?

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    Quote Originally Posted by djm968
    How many users are going to use the VPN?
    Just me...

    This is solely so I can handle the mundane "the print queue is borked again" style problems up to GPO tweaks and the like...

    Basically anything that doesn't really need me to jump into a car and drive to the school (which is nearly an hour away).

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    RDP would be far easier to implement. Get port 3389 open and pointed to the PC or server on your LAN, make sure you have selected the "allow users to connect remotely to this computer" option and bobs your uncle

    A lot less hassle than VPN... trust me!

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    That had occured to me but I suspect SchoolsICT are going to require me to VPN in so that option may not be available.

    i'll have to drop them a line and find out more but either way I would still like to get a grip on VPN as much for self educations sake.

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    I agree with the VPN for your own developement, but if SchoolsICT block you (I would fight them all the way) then I would install a seperate broadband connection and bypass them altogether.

    I have done this at a few schools and you can justify the additional cost becuase it gives you redundancy in the event that the main internet connection fails.

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    Have you thought about using www.logmein.com It's free and works through firewalls and NAT etc... You just tap into their address and you can remote control the server, or whatever.
    Pro version allows you to do file transfer etc.. and ain't a lot of cash.

    Some LEAs ban it, but it works really well here (Essex).

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    I agree with the VPN for your own developement, but if SchoolsICT block you (I would fight them all the way) then I would install a seperate broadband connection and bypass them altogether.
    Be careful here. We can't do this in Lancs because it's a breach of our CLEO broadband contract. I expect the contract with SchoolsICT will be similar?

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    Quote Originally Posted by djm968
    RDP would be far easier to implement. Get port 3389 open and pointed to the PC or server on your LAN, make sure you have selected the "allow users to connect remotely to this computer" option and bobs your uncle

    A lot less hassle than VPN... trust me!
    Caereful with raw RDP. There's quite a few mentions on the net that it might be vulnerable to Man in the Middle attacks because there is no autentication of server identity.

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    Our council would be well annoyed if we had another internet connection also the connection would not be filtered by the LEA.

    Ross

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    Most councils I have worked with have not had an issue with this and it did not breach any existing broadband contacts.

    I have had to do risk assessments and prove that their are no security issues but with a well configured firewall there is no risk.

    As for LEA filtering....... what filtering? If you are going to use it for kids, which you are not, it is only there for remote access, filter it yourself.


    LEA's take a large chunk of money off you, throws it at an ISP who rubs their hands together and provides overpriced broadband connections while dictating what you can and can't do with it and when you mention the word SLA they suddenly loose the ability to comprehend English

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    We have an outside net connection here too for admin and staff access. We're filtered by C2K in northern Ireland and they're filtering choices tend to be "intresting". Its just 2meg ADSL but it lets me RDP in and lets teacher or upper school pupils use things like google images that the C2K filter blocks.

    I also hope to setup a squid, dansguirdian box over half term to allow some filtering on it so that I can add it to classrooms to do the online clait + exam.

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    Re: Getting ready for VPN : Where to start?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teth
    I also hope to setup a squid, dansguirdian box over half term to allow some filtering on it so that I can add it to classrooms to do the online clait + exam.
    Good choice how about setting up two squids and load balaced the connections you will also have redundant internet access!

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