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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    thanks for the explaination...

    "I was with you all the way up to 'Simply'" [Red Dwarf quote]

    The current range is 10.0.0.0 and 255.255.255.0

    I dont want to change this again - as last time things went all weird lol and gave me alot of hell in the process [still dont realyl know why tho].

    Could I just add the music room with the range of 10.0.1.0? I dont fully understand the netmask thing unfortunately tho so if u can suggest the settings - that would be handy

    The routers / WAP's are using the custom DD-WRT firmware [latest version] that has every feature under the sun lol so routing shudn't be a prob - if i know what to change etc.

    Cheers
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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    No, you need to subnet each 'site' seperately otherwise the site to site replication will not function.

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    You need a subnet each side so for you it would be something like

    Network address Subnet Mask
    10.0.1.xxx 255.255.255.0
    10.0.2.xxx 255.255.255.0

    Subnet mask just means what part of the ip address represents the network address and what part represents the individual device. the xxx in the above will be your device address part.

    I don't know if you know binary but its easier to show like that. The 4 groups of numbers in an IP are 4 8bit binary patterns converted to decimal to make it easier to read as a human. so the 10.0.1.xxx and netmask are.

    00001010 00000000 00000001 xxxxxxxx <--- Address
    11111111 11111111 11111111 00000000 <---- Net Mask

    So a net mask literaly "masks" off which bits of the overall IP that routers and other devices consider the network address. Routing is done based on if the device currently inspecting the packet either has a direct connection to that network or doesn't. If it has a connection it sends the packet there, if it doesn't it sends it out its default gateway and lets the next device worry about it.

    In short yes. Get your network properly subnetted. Set up your DC in each area and just tell them which interface they need to replicate over. WIndows makes it very simple. a 54g wireless link will be more than adequate to replicate user files and the AD for authentication with bandidth left to use the interweb. If you have any trouble with signal I'll get you a link for some superb cut out and make (blue peter style) signel boosters. They worked wonders for me.

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    Wow - thats that stuff i was after Teth thanks lol

    Yep - i do know binary [theres some deep rooted story in my brain from long long ago about binary.... but i cant resurface it at the moment.... stupid brain that I have hehe] and I always wondered whether netmask associates to netmask and such.

    God i'm dense sometimes lol

    I'll have to think about it some more

    I've got a period of a whole 2 days to set all this up btw lol as I'm not allowed term time off and I have the rest of my annual leave to take [have tried swaping a day or to for term time but it aint gonna happen]

    so shema update, R2 upgrade on the servers & install R2 on the new server and add it to the domain, and somehow setup the sites

    So long as it dont break anything I *hope* thats enough time lol

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teth
    I don't know if you know binary but its easier to show like that. The 4 groups of numbers in an IP are 4 8bit binary patterns converted to decimal to make it easier to read as a human. so the 10.0.1.xxx and netmask are.
    There are 10 types of people in this world,

    Those that understand binary, and those that don't...

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    lmao I was waiting for that one - and u did it soooo quick lol

    and yes, i do get the joke :P

    Nath.

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    As promised link for wifi booster which gives 9-12DB boost for the cost of a bit of cardboard, some tinfoil, glue and a sharp pair of scissors.

    http://www.freeantennas.com/projects...te2/index.html

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    Sounds like a job for 6th form students.

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    hehe You must have a good 6th form [only joking to ours ]

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    Right.....

    So far I've:

    - Updated the schema on the AD for Srv 2003 R2 features
    - Added the Music Room DC to the domain
    - Added the Domain Controller role to the server
    - Setup a site in Active Directory Sites and Services as per the guide here:

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...tep/adsrv.mspx

    [I've even excluded lesson times from the replication schedule to minimise the chance of the wifi link going down - smart ass thinking there.... I hope lol]

    - Moved the new DC to the site and setup a new subnet in the Subnet section 10.0.1.0 / 255.255.255.0

    My next question is...um....what do i do now? lol

    Do I change the server's IP address from an address on the 10.0.0.x range to this new subnet range?

    Do I need to setup the DNS Role on this server too?

    Any more thoughts to this multiple site thing would be handy.... I'm getting there tho

    Cheers very muchly
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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    I would set the server up as a 2nd DC for your existing domain given the issues you have had with you main DC.

    This would give you redundancy if the main DC does fail. You could install DNS on this server and configure Zone transfers from the main DC. Replication should not be an issue over the wireless link.

    I would store the music files locally and set up a GPO to redirect My Documents to the Music DC at logon, or simply map an additional drive to the Music DC and tell the students to save music files there.

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    Thats pretty much the plan....

    Good bye roaming profiles I think lol

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    ...and then bad things happened....

    Exchange 2003 died. Whether it was the R2 upgrade on the server, or whether it was from follow a MS guide relating to using the AD Sites and Services tool [where it mentions renaming the Default-First-Site] I'm not sure.

    When I tried having a stab at the problem and following another MS guide [regarding Recreating the Virtual Directories of Exchange] which then made things worse...

    And then to to it all, a driver decided to seperate the RAID back into two seperate drives again within Windows [somehow] so thats spoilt things.

    Thanks Teth for giving me a hand with the sites & IP ranges etc.... shame everything else fell apart hehe

    Its gonna be a looooong morning

    Nath.

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    Oh dear sounds like you’ve had the worst possible day!!! Still on the upside you will be an AD and Exchange Expert when you sort it all out......
    I’d go with the Site rename rather than the Schema Update that buggered it up... did you go through the Systems Manager and check all the various properties to see if you could find anything relating to Default-First-Name-Site...

    Good Luck in the AM... Google is your Friend...

    Note to self don’t change the default-first-name-site name...

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    Re: 1 Domain + 1 domain + syncronised users = possible?

    Just a gut feeling, but I'd agree with K-strider about the site rename. I seem to remember from an Exchange disaster recovery that it's a bit fussy about site names.

    The other thing you'll need to be careful about now is replication. If you configured the sites to not replicate during lessons, then I'd make sure you force replication manually. Make sure you have REPLMON to hand. It's either in the resource kit tools or the support tools pack on the 2K3 CD. You might also be needing ADSIEDIT (gulp).

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