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    B****y WLANs - Save me Ruckus

    Wish I'd never said to the head 'We need a WLAN as it's holding the school back, can I have 30K?'

    Now I've got so many different types of kit and quotes and facts and figures, I'm having a breakdown.

    Current tops dogs are:

    • HP
    • Meru
    • Aruba


    However, you can't open a tab here without hearing about Ruckus, but none of my suppliers can provide it or are trying to convince me that it's all lies.

    Basically, I need to make my mind up really really quickly and get the kit ordered and on it's way before Wednesday next week as my trial (HP in one part, Meru in the other) kit is going on next Friday and I need something to replace it.

    So, whos the Ruckus rep for the North West and can they get to my school quick sharp to tell me why I should choose ruckus over the other four.

    Then please god let me hear the last of cells, channels, radios, standards, etc etc...

    Oh, and anyone with any honest opinion of the top four, feel free to vent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagridsbeard View Post
    Wish I'd never said to the head 'We need a WLAN as it's holding the school back, can I have 30K?'

    Now I've got so many different types of kit and quotes and facts and figures, I'm having a breakdown.

    Current tops dogs are:

    • HP
    • Meru
    • Aruba


    However, you can't open a tab here without hearing about Ruckus, but none of my suppliers can provide it or are trying to convince me that it's all lies.

    Basically, I need to make my mind up really really quickly and get the kit ordered and on it's way before Wednesday next week as my trial (HP in one part, Meru in the other) kit is going on next Friday and I need something to replace it.

    So, whos the Ruckus rep for the North West and can they get to my school quick sharp to tell me why I should choose ruckus over the other four.

    Then please god let me hear the last of cells, channels, radios, standards, etc etc...

    Oh, and anyone with any honest opinion of the top four, feel free to vent.

    Hi hagridsbeard,

    As a Ruckus Wireless Big Dog Partner and official Edugeek Sponsor that has supplied many a happy Edugeek member are known for offering the best deals of Ruckus Managed wireless in the UK, combine this with our expert knowledge and support this makes it a win win situation.
    If you would like to pm me your full details I will contact you first thing to discuss further and look at supplying you with a evaluation unit to see the benefits that this fully managed cost effective solution can offer you,
    For example we saved a school
    Be sure to checkout our outstanding feedback in the recomended suppliers section of the forums below,

    To give you an example we saved a school close to 4k on a ruckus deal this week against our competitors pricing,

    http://www.edugeek.net/forums/recommended-suppliers/

    p.s as we are not vendor biased we can also offer you all of the above mentioned solutions at great prices also,
    Simon

    Last edited by CPLTD; 13th November 2009 at 07:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagridsbeard View Post
    Wish I'd never said to the head 'We need a WLAN as it's holding the school back, can I have 30K?'

    Now I've got so many different types of kit and quotes and facts and figures, I'm having a breakdown.

    Current tops dogs are:

    • HP
    • Meru
    • Aruba


    However, you can't open a tab here without hearing about Ruckus, but none of my suppliers can provide it or are trying to convince me that it's all lies.

    Basically, I need to make my mind up really really quickly and get the kit ordered and on it's way before Wednesday next week as my trial (HP in one part, Meru in the other) kit is going on next Friday and I need something to replace it.

    So, whos the Ruckus rep for the North West and can they get to my school quick sharp to tell me why I should choose ruckus over the other four.

    Then please god let me hear the last of cells, channels, radios, standards, etc etc...

    Oh, and anyone with any honest opinion of the top four, feel free to vent.
    Hi, I see that Simon from CPLTD has contacted you. All I can say is:

    A: Nobody will beat CPLTD's price - PERIOD!
    B: Simon from CPLTD is a great guy and will look after you - PERIOD!
    C: Ruckus wireless is amazing - PERIOD!
    D: Ruckus is probabaly the best product for the price (and more) - PERIOD!

    I have NO connection with Simon or CPLTD, but I just wanted to say how they helped me a great deal in choosing my wireless setup and provided me with great advice and help every step of the way.

    I PROMISE you, that if you purchase the Ruckus system, you will NOT be disappointed.

    If you want to talk to me about Ruckus or CPLTD, please PM me! - I'm also from the North West, but to be honest, when you attach the Ruckus to your network, you don't need anyone else, it's just SO easy - I PROMISE!

    Like I said, I have no affiliation with CPLTD, but I honestly believe, it's worth commenting on a good guy with a good product at a great price.

    Please contact me if you want to talk about Ruckus or CPLTD. Better still, come to our school and I'll show you how good and easy it is!

    Regards

    Karl

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    Hi Carl,

    Thanks for that. Can you PM me your email and contact details?

    If possible, do you think I could visit tomorrow or Monday?

    I'm getting quite stressed with all this and as time is short I don't think I'll be able to trial the kit so seeing it in situ may be a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagridsbeard View Post
    Hi Carl,

    Thanks for that. Can you PM me your email and contact details?

    If possible, do you think I could visit tomorrow or Monday?

    I'm getting quite stressed with all this and as time is short I don't think I'll be able to trial the kit so seeing it in situ may be a good idea.
    I'll do it right now. You are welcome to come any time!!!!

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    I feel your pain on time constraints for ordering... I'm/was in the exact same situation - I had Wednesday-Friday to get it going!


    Quote Originally Posted by hagridsbeard View Post
    Wish I'd never said to the head 'We need a WLAN as it's holding the school back, can I have 30K?'

    Now I've got so many different types of kit and quotes and facts and figures, I'm having a breakdown.

    Current tops dogs are:

    • HP
    • Meru
    • Aruba


    However, you can't open a tab here without hearing about Ruckus, but none of my suppliers can provide it or are trying to convince me that it's all lies.

    Basically, I need to make my mind up really really quickly and get the kit ordered and on it's way before Wednesday next week as my trial (HP in one part, Meru in the other) kit is going on next Friday and I need something to replace it.

    So, whos the Ruckus rep for the North West and can they get to my school quick sharp to tell me why I should choose ruckus over the other four.

    Then please god let me hear the last of cells, channels, radios, standards, etc etc...

    Oh, and anyone with any honest opinion of the top four, feel free to vent.

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    There are a number of other Ruckus suppliers, some who provide very hands-on support with setup and can give you bespoke advice for your school. Personally I would also suggest talking to the guys at Net-Ctrl too about it but other Ruckus vendors and partners are available (actually ... only 2 gold partners I think ... one being Net-Ctrl)

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    Yes make sure you give Net-Ctrl a buzz, Aggy or Mark on the forums will be able to sort you out. I have dealt with Mark for a while now and him and his team have always been there when i needed them and there support is fantastic cant fault them 1 bit.

    As tony said, they are one of the very very few GOLD Partners for Ruckus kit, they specialize in this and know everything you can now about it, certainly recommend just speaking with them.

    If anything remember that it's not all about cheap prices, SUPPORT is something that should be on the top of your list, and with Net-Ctrl you get this and more!

    Mark - http://www.edugeek.net/forums/members/markpower.html
    Aggy - http://www.edugeek.net/forums/members/aggy.html

    We have a smaller installation at the moment and LOVE it! Had a few problems but they had Ruckus and There Specialist (Stuart) onto it straight away and it was sorted with in a few hours!

    James.

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    Yes I agree, Mark from Net-Ctrl sorted us out here. Amazing support also!

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    Aggy is on her hols at the mo until Monday, and Mark is out of the office until today as I'm now in the process of procuring some Ruckus gear as well.

    Aggy still phoned me yesterday though.... mad woman. It's the support like that that really counts IMHO. Mark also contacted me via email yesterday as well. Dedicated lot there.

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    We had our ruckus kit from Net-Ctrl too. We have an unusual problem here in that some channels are being flooded by some external source that ruckus (or any other kit) could not handle properly. Once we and Mark from Net-Ctrl figured this out we manually assigned channels on the worst affected areas and it now works very well.


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    Having received quotes I found CP to be cheaper by quite a bit (nearly a fifth) to other quotes which has saved me scouting out a different product in a very short period of time. I'm not here to be friends with any suppliers & I will complain about suppliers if they're poor - check my other posts. CP went beyond the call of duty yesterday... I expect good service as a standard when spending the governments money - what I received was excellect service & a better price.

    That's my personal experience - I can't vouch for everyone else.

    My guessing is that you'd need to get more than one set of quotes anyway before you could go ahead for auditing purposes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwhyte85 View Post
    Having received quotes I found CP to be cheaper by quite a bit (nearly a fifth) to other quotes which has saved me scouting out a different product in a very short period of time. I'm not here to be friends with any suppliers & I will complain about suppliers if they're poor - check my other posts. CP went beyond the call of duty yesterday... I expect good service as a standard when spending the governments money - what I received was excellect service & a better price.

    That's my personal experience - I can't vouch for everyone else.

    My guessing is that you'd need to get more than one set of quotes anyway before you could go ahead for auditing purposes?
    I'm not getting quotes for the same kit. But I've got quotes for the above 4 from three different suppliers.

    All falling around £15,000 (not Cisco, they were 23K) for 25 x Dual Radio N APS, 1 x Controller.

    Its such a horrible position to be in as it has to be right and scale to support all SLT plans (VOIP, eveery students laptop etc).

    Ruckus seems too good to be true, the only thing that worries me is that they are an unknown over here (in fairness, so are Meru). HP, Cisco and to a lesser extent Aruba are unlilely to go anywhere, but who knows about Meru and Ruckus.

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    With the Ruckus kit you will probably find you won't need as many APs. We went from 40+ Buffalo APs to 29 Ruckus APs to give us site wide coverage.

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    When buying Ruckus kit I see Ruckus resellers also recommend buying into software/hardware support. Is this extra support really needed or just a ploy to make money?

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