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    Afternoon

    Nice that my air con packed in just as I have to start wearing a bl$$dy suit again innit.

    I just thought I would sing the praises of SchoolGuardian as a web filtering solution and ask if anyone else uses it. The support always get back to me on the day and its got lots of lovely bells and whistles to play about with.

    Things I like alot.

    LDAP connection allows me to use windows groups different access, and it works.
    Time based filtering to allow sites through at different times of the day. Really useful with our foreign students who allow to look at chinese sites after 6pm (boarders) but not during the school day.
    Logging is really quick and allows you to add sites on the fly quickly.

    I think the heat is getting to me as I actually like something using *.knickers

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    But how much does it cost?

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    Can you put a value of the children of tommorow?



    Well I was using Smoothwall 2.0 for £0 and this install has cost me under £1500 for 220 licenses with a annual maintennance cost of 15% (I think). For my sanity its been money well spent.

    Compared to Firebox and all that I think its superb. Its running on an 2Ghz Athlon chip with a gig of Ram.

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    Hmmm. I've had a quick skim over the features and personally it doesn't seem worth that sort of money. But that's just me A custom-made box can potentially provide a higer level of functionality if set up correctly and a considerably cheaper price tag. We're currently using IPCop with some addons and transparent authentication and have very few problems. When the kids complain that they can't get on games, we know we've got atleast one thing right

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    I have to admit I've looked at School Guardian when we were trying to get rid of Vital as our school ISP...

    The price is a little on the high side but for schools that have no dedicated tech staff, and use contractors on a limited school budget and they want to be sure it all works without needing to learn it themselves (Teachers? learn?! ) then it's pretty reasonably priced IMHO.

    For all that though I'm looking at Smoothwall and a bunch of mods for our content filtering.

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    Geesh so much negativity.

    When I used Smoothwall 2.0 I had loads of mods fitted but I ended up rebuilding it 3 times over twelve months, the logging didn't work and it would stop the web proxy service for no apparent reason. I know its GPL and all that and people work on it for the love of the product but I wanted to be able to pick up the phone and speak to a techie to fix the problem straight off. I haven't got the time to mess around with tarballs all day.

    Oh and the price includes the blocklist downloads.

    Anyone interested in screenies let me know.

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    Im looking forward to the new version of Censornet. The school guardian is a nice setup though by the look of it and I am sure its alot cheaper than alot of the stuff some schools are using. So like simcfc73 says it's a good option if you would like that support.

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    Does noone use Sentian Bess Edition?
    Its the dogs and does all that stuff out of the tin with pretty much any firewall/proxy you want to use. You just install its plugins. You can also have multiple deploy's all using the same web rules and centrally managed.
    It does cost though but did not find it that bad and they are FAST at updating blocked sites.

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    We've had IPCop (Smoothwall clone) running for well over a year now and not had any problems; and it would have that uptime as well if it wasn't for power loss.

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    Why isn't it on a UPS?

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    Because its a SCHOOL lol
    Does it really matter?!?! :P (best not say that, teachers *may* hear my thoughts since they REALLY need to shop and buy holidays at all times)

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    I'm also waiting for the next censornet release which isn't going to be public until oct/nov time now.

    I've got a rackmount here waiting to have it installed on.

    Ben

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    Why isn't it on a UPS?
    Budget?

    Not any more though, we've just free'd up a load of SmartUPS-700s by getting a huge rackmount UPS for all our servers. The smaller ones will soon be distributed around the switch cabinets & hopefully the proxy & gateway boxes

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    You think thats huge?! that struggles to power 4 proliants and my switch cabinets for longer than 3 minutes! Looking at a 10KV solution which should be enough to give me enough juice for everything now and in the future as well as a good amount of run time and shutdown time.

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    Re: SchoolGuardian

    Huge in comparison to a single SmartUPS 700 ;-)

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