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    We have 420 and 530 AP's and ruckus. The HP stuff i've never had a problem with but the ruckus gives much better coverage, the 530 AP's are highly configurable and give the best coverage of the Procurve AP's i've come across but they are a pain to deploy on mass.

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    Just a note on the HP/Colubris MSM kit, you don't have to configure each access point, the APs provision themselves from the controller when in controlled mode (which is the default). It's decent enough kit, easy to use and the NAC stuff is good and pretty flexible although I'd like to trial some other kit against it if I ever get the time as there's a lot of much improved wireless kit coming out at the moment.

    I'm guessing the people that had to set each AP up are using the old zl kit (pre Colubris) or don't have a controller unit...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymunky View Post
    I'm guessing the people that had to set each AP up are using the old zl kit (pre Colubris) or don't have a controller unit...?
    Correct for me... The controller could be something I look into for the future.

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    The 2610-24/12PWR is a nice switch and runs completely silent. Also very manageable too. The MSM325 WW Access Points look fairly expensive for what they are. I can't seem to find any detailed specs anywhere?

    I've used other HP APs and they're very easy to setup. Just a little time consuming if you have many to do, but that's the same with any network setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymunky View Post
    Just a note on the HP/Colubris MSM kit, you don't have to configure each access point, the APs provision themselves from the controller when in controlled mode (which is the default). It's decent enough kit, easy to use and the NAC stuff is good and pretty flexible although I'd like to trial some other kit against it if I ever get the time as there's a lot of much improved wireless kit coming out at the moment.

    I'm guessing the people that had to set each AP up are using the old zl kit (pre Colubris) or don't have a controller unit...?
    Using the zl module in a 5412 here, it's automatic, if you want it to be. Plug a radio port in and it gets adopted and starts working. All you need is the vlans available to the switches.

    The only thing I have to configure on the RPs is 802.1x username/pass. I really like the fact that I can use this to automatically asign them to the wireless vlan with our existing port authentication. Cantt comment on the speed as we have only light use, it's for convenience - no laptop trollies or similar.

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    Looked at the controller for our 5400 but its far to expensive, i do like the procurve kit but its wireless gear just doesnt stack up to the competition like its switches. Shame really as it would have been a much more elegant solution as now we are slowly getting shot of the HP access points as they cant handle the growing number of wireless clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    So what would be the equivlent ruckus kit?

    I have 2 large rooms, one dining hall and 4 small rooms I need to cover.
    Also get someone in to do a Ruckus site survey to see if you will be able to get away with less APs (to save yourself money on PoE)

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    RUCKUS!!

    22 ap's to cover our whole site :-) and the field was also covered! and so were many of the surrounding houses!! :-) nice bit of encryption

    I'd say you would need around 4 Ap's but without looking at your site couldn't say for sure.

    If you send a layout of your building highlighting the rooms etc (dont have to be to scale) to Net-CTRL and/or Simon then they will be able to give you an estimate using that :-)

    James.

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    oh, and btw, we went from 37 APs to 10 by switching to ruckus. We have 8 acre coverage like I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    The 2610-24/12PWR is a nice switch and runs completely silent. Also very manageable too. .
    i had a new buidling recently that was very similar (4 classrooms and a few offices), I put in a 2610-48 and a 2610-24/12PWR and they are both excellent (48 porters arent silent though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_ View Post
    Also get someone in to do a Ruckus site survey to see if you will be able to get away with less APs (to save yourself money on PoE)
    Would building plans be sufficent?

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    I would think so the guys at Net Ctrl work wonders

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    I would think so the guys at Net Ctrl work wonders
    I got a survey from them based on a site plan. Give Simon at CP a poke too if you're looking for more than one quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Would building plans be sufficent?
    It's always better to get someone onsite... plans are good for an estimate but you just don't know how much radio the walls will absorb. You could get two of these too (CP and Net-Ctrl) to see how their minds work when it comes to placement

    You've seen my place... thick sandstone walls, wire-mesh safety glass and awkward shape of one of the corridors meaning that I needed 7 (BlueSocket) APs on one corridor!!!

    You could use the estimate from the plans to see if it's worth your while getting Net-Ctrl or somebody in to do a proper survey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_ View Post
    It's always better to get someone onsite....
    I agree with you there, but Net-Ctrl just had a not to scale site map and manage to show me where the access points would go. we kind of knew where we wanted them anyhow... but they got them placed spot on! :-)

    James.

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