Wireless Networks Thread, Electronic Registration in Technical; Hi,
We're looking at putting in electronic registration in to the classrooms this september, problem is, how to do it. ...
6th July 2009, 10:34 AM #1
We're looking at putting in electronic registration in to the classrooms this september, problem is, how to do it. We've got two networks, curriculum and admin. The teachers laptops are on the Curriculum network and the electronic registration system is on the Admin Network. Our (small) physical network consists of a router through which we get broadband and two switches one at either side of the school. The switches aren't managed and are about five years old. I'm thinking of replacing the switches with managed lvl 3 switches (or getting in smaller ones to go along side the present ones just for the e registration) and setting up VLAN's to allow us to securely join the two networks. Is this the right way to go about it or am i barking up the wrong tree!!! lol
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6th July 2009, 10:45 AM #2
Have you considered merging the networks and then just having two domains and having trusts to control the information between them?
6th July 2009, 10:46 AM #3
We used to have 2 networks but nowadays there is no need for this as one network with file and user permissions in Windows being as good as they are,
I would look at amalgamating both of your networks into one.
We built a new W2K network back in 2002 and built a new MIS server and made it a member server on that domain. Then set up user groups and file permissions so that only MIS group members had access to the admin file structure on that server.
It has worked really well here but I know LA was against it but they have used our experience throughout the County and advised everyone else to do the same.
I would get advice from your LA team first though.
6th July 2009, 10:50 AM #4
Most schools have already moved away from the two networks model. VLANs doesn't sound like the right way of going about it. VLANs let you keep networks separate even if they share network hardware.
Are the two networks physicaly connected and are they using the same IP range?
6th July 2009, 11:07 AM #5
It's not through choice, we where given two ip address ranges from county LEA, on for the curriculum and one for the admin.
6th July 2009, 11:19 AM #6
Does your LEA only allow machines on the admin ip's to access certain information from the county WAN?
If not just pick one of the ip ranges and use it for all your pc's
6th July 2009, 11:22 AM #7
we have to use to different ranges, this is set by county
6th July 2009, 11:26 AM #8
Urgh! I though that most LAs had moved away from this being the recommended way. Here we were actively encouraged to join our networks together and the LA came out to help us to it.
Originally Posted by Maximus
So this is set in stone then? Talk to your LA and see what their advice on how to do it is. At some point they are going to have to come up with a solution to this as elecontric registration is an enevitability.
6th July 2009, 04:09 PM #9
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Apart from having to manage two physically separate networks, unless the teachers require access to the Registration System from the Curriculum network, I can see no issue in splitting the two networks and putting the Electronic Registration system on the Admin network, depending on what electronic registration system you have selected.
6th July 2009, 04:14 PM #10
"We have to use 2 ranges thats set by county" - pah what an excuse.
Schools are the customers of their LEA support teams why should you be dictated too?
6th July 2009, 04:16 PM #11
It looks as though the easiest solution is to combine the networks into one and just use file permissions on the SIM's machine for security.
6th July 2009, 04:18 PM #12
you could use terminal services from the admin network to allow teachers full access to sims and additional information as required.
6th July 2009, 04:20 PM #13
The admin network doesn't have a server, it's just two machines on a different ip range.
6th July 2009, 05:19 PM #14
Put your registration system on the curriculum network then (or multi-home it so that it is on both).
6th July 2009, 05:26 PM #15
LA's cannot tell a school what to do with their network btw - schools have devolved control over that sort of issue. It is up to the head, and any head which says 'county says' is simply not bothering to think about it themselves.
However, the question I'd have is, what is the registration system. Can you not stick a router in between the LANs and set up ACLs allowing access to that particular server?
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