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    Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    Hi all,

    At the school where I work we currently have two separate networks for admin and curriculum. Curriculum is CC3 and admin is Vanilla XP.

    Just wondering what the situation is elsewhere as long term I am hoping to firstly move away from RM and have vanilla curriculum and eventually perhaps merge the two together.

    Would really appreciate any feedback as how things are done elswhere and if anyone else has done anything similar - be great to hear how it went, any problems etc etc.

    Thanks,

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    We have that samesetup as you and have just merged the two but still with CC3 we will eb going Vanilla fairly soon
    hopefully
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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    We currently have seperate Admin, Curriculum and Finance.

    First week of the holidays will see it be merged to Curriculum/Admin as one and Finance off on it's own (only 4 computers and a server).

    I couldn't tell you much more as it's being set up by our outside contractor.

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    We used to have a CC3 network + vanilla admin. We merged them around two years ago and now have an integrated SIMS.net and CC3 network, with SIMS on it's own member server bought from RM.

    We haven't had any problems at all - all users on one network, same username format, all managed from the RM MC

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    Wow 3 replies in the same second.
    RM sucks major ass and i would love to get rid of it, despite the facta 5 year old could operate it i think its slow and just horrible.
    CC3 should die a horrible death IMO
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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    @intrigue: For what reasons?

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    Wow - thanks for the rapid responses!!

    Anyone come up against any resistance from their LEAs when merging admin/curriculum networks? Ours isn't too pleased with the suggestion of a one way trust relationship between the two let alone a complete merge!!!

    The school do have the final say but it is convincing them that the LEA is over cautious - any similar experiences??

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    When I started here we had a single domain running from 2 vanilla 2K3 DC's on separate IP subnets (PDC sat on both with dual NIC's, BDC only on admin). In the summer we'll be moving all admin machines over to the curriculum subnet and using the admin subnet as a DMZ for the web and mail servers.
    Having a DC which 3/4 of all clients can't see was a PITA.

    Regarding convincing the LEA, easy, I havn't told them ^^

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    At the minimum there should be a trust in my opinion. One domain is the better solution. How are staff suppost to communicate and share easy if they are seperated. I would have staff unable to put documents in the Admin shared area, and other staff unable to put documents in the curriculum staff area. The LEA still want 2 domains so a 2 way trust is in place, so i just joined the admin machines to the curriculum network and now people care share easy.

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    Our LEA completely backed it as that is the way they wanted to go. I don't think it is a one way trust thing either... the SIMS is just a member server in the domain and it "just works".

    The "admin" staff are in the teaching group on one of the DCs, but only these members have access to the S: (SIMS) drive.

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    My LEA suggested it as they wanted to use my 'net connection (100mb LES).

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    We're one of the last in our LEA to have gotten away with seperate networks for a long time.

    I'd rather have seperate ones, Staff are the most irresponsible people when it comes to security, and I think it's a major security risk for data and personal information.

    But at the end of the day, what do my opinions matter?

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrforgetful
    I'd rather have seperate ones, Staff are the most irresponsible people when it comes to security, and I think it's a major security risk for data and personal information.
    Then leave the ball in their court. They leave workstation open - their problem if data gets leaked.

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    Quote Originally Posted by mrforgetful
    I'd rather have seperate ones, Staff are the most irresponsible people when it comes to security, and I think it's a major security risk for data and personal information.
    Then leave the ball in their court. They leave workstation open - their problem if data gets leaked.
    That's pretty much my attitude tbh, though I'm just worried that it might be my personal data that gets looked at by an kid with a grudge...or crush 8O lol

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    Re: Admin and Curriculum separate or merged?

    We have 2 seperate networks essentially and thats the way it will stay, they are joined via a V-LAN which allows Admin to access curr. but not the other way. The LEA can kick or scream all they want they wont be joined into one domain.

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    Quote Originally Posted by mrforgetful
    I'd rather have seperate ones, Staff are the most irresponsible people when it comes to security, and I think it's a major security risk for data and personal information.
    Then leave the ball in their court. They leave workstation open - their problem if data gets leaked.

    Careful with that way of thinking as you may find that you are the one who takes the can for breaches of Data Protection. They would not get done it would be down to whomever is in charge of data protection and seeing as you run the servers you may find its you.



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