Wireless Networks Thread, Managed Wireless in Technical; We are Currently looking into a Managed Wireless Solution, and after doing some research myself (which has involved the search ...
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22nd April 2009, 09:53 AM #1
Managed Wireless
We are Currently looking into a Managed Wireless Solution, and after doing some research myself (which has involved the search button lol) i have come seeking your advice and experience.
We are looking into;
- Trapize - Awaiting info and researching still
- Aruba - Have hear this is pricy
- Ruckus -Have heard they use directional APs to cover large areas, which would spread the bandwidth over multiple rooms, less access point = less cost, but lower bandwidth
- HP - Not heard much yet are a friend at a different school is currently having this installed.
My questions are;
- how do these compare in price?
- how do you find (esp with ruckus) coectig a whole class of laptops, ie speed, reliability etc?
- Any one have anything to say about HP?
thanks in advance
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22nd April 2009, 12:46 PM #2 Search for forums for Ruckus, plenty of happy customers on here of that hardware. Give Mark Power / his team a ring at Net Ctrl on 01473 281211 and they will be happy to help i'm sure.
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2 Thanks to john:
MarkPower (22nd April 2009), stevenlong1985 (23rd April 2009)
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22nd April 2009, 12:51 PM #3 Ruckus is a good deal better than any other solution I have come across. Simon at CP is also a good contact! If you rin 0845 249 1779 and ask for Simon then you are in good hands.
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22nd April 2009, 12:52 PM #4 
Originally Posted by
gibbo_ap
[*]how do you find (esp with ruckus) coectig a whole class of laptops, ie speed, reliability etc?
We use ruckus here, and have a laptop trolley (30 laptops) and about 10 staff laptops running through one access point, they run just through this one point as they do when all cabled in, logging in 30 @ the same time is amazingly smooth too. We've had no issues since it was installed 3 months ago, and it took me about 10 minutes to configure.
I can't comment on any other solutions, but ruckus is GREAT!
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2 Thanks to Dom_:
CPLTD (22nd April 2009), MarkPower (22nd April 2009)
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22nd April 2009, 01:11 PM #5 another + 1 for Ruckus and Mark from Net-Ctrl.
I installed our kit yesterday and its excellent!
We've had 60 laptops connecting at the same time in a very small location which is in the middle of 2 access points.
Not one laptop dropped the connection and every connection was extremely stable!
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Thanks to jamin100 from:
MarkPower (22nd April 2009)
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22nd April 2009, 01:42 PM #6 Its odd, Ive never seen Ruckus advertised anywhere else, never heard of it, apart from the tons of happy customers on edugeek
We've got Aruba, certainly pricey but it does work very well. Laptop connection problems have been virtually eliminated
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22nd April 2009, 01:46 PM #7 
Originally Posted by
gibbo_ap
[*]Ruckus -Have heard they use directional APs to cover large areas, which would spread the bandwidth over multiple rooms, less access point = less cost, but lower bandwidth
Less bandwidth? not quite...
You'll find a ruckus controllers signal to be much more stable - providing a almost ethernet standard of signal to any client in range - due to the snazzy internal antennaes
I'd say get some demo kit - mark and stuart from net-ctrl helped me out, sorted us with demos etc.
Couldn't be happier with it at my last place - looking at putting it in here now...
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Thanks to Domino from:
MarkPower (22nd April 2009)
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22nd April 2009, 01:55 PM #8 
Originally Posted by
gibbo_ap
We are Currently looking into a Managed Wireless Solution, and after doing some research myself (which has involved the search button lol) i have come seeking your advice and experience.
We are looking into;
- Trapize - Awaiting info and researching still
- Aruba - Have hear this is pricy
- Ruckus -Have heard they use directional APs to cover large areas, which would spread the bandwidth over multiple rooms, less access point = less cost, but lower bandwidth
- HP - Not heard much yet are a friend at a different school is currently having this installed.
My questions are;
- how do these compare in price?
- how do you find (esp with ruckus) coectig a whole class of laptops, ie speed, reliability etc?
- Any one have anything to say about HP?
thanks in advance
As mentioned in my PM to you more than happy to help when you have the time, and will be happy to find some eval kit asap so you can see for yourself how good it is.
Cheers
Mark
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Thanks to MarkPower from:
gibbo_ap (22nd April 2009)
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22nd April 2009, 03:47 PM #9 Almost finished installing our Ruckus (about time eh Mark!) and so far very pleased with it. Just having central control is excellent and getting users on the wireless for the whole site in one go has gone well.
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22nd April 2009, 03:55 PM #10 
Originally Posted by
dirtydog
Almost finished installing our Ruckus (about time eh Mark!) and so far very pleased with it. Just having central control is excellent and getting users on the wireless for the whole site in one go has gone well.
Good stuff yes about time is correct :-) enjoy using it and always happy to help if you need me.
Cheers
Mark
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22nd April 2009, 10:09 PM #11
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22nd April 2009, 11:19 PM #12
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I've deployed HP wireless solutions before. We were using 210 access points with a modular controller in a Procurve 5108xl.
It works extremely well and is very easy to configure but the licensing isn't cheap.
If you'd like to see a site running then I can probably arrange a demo where I used to work. The HP wireless solution was stable enough to support not only laptops but Mitel phones.
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23rd April 2009, 12:18 AM #13 Yes as everyone else has said, i would consider speaking (if not already) with Net Ctrl who will be able to advice you on Managed Wireless Solutions
We might be getting 120+ Laptops added to our load, so we need to ditch our Aruba Setup and go with something ALOT better
If Ruckus dont float your boat, another company i did see that were very good were Meru : Meru Networks | Home we recently had a demo of there kit and its also pretty good stuff!
I've only found Ruckus and Meru to be able to log on 30 laptops at the same time with no problems
of 1 access point
James.
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Thanks to EduTech from:
MarkPower (23rd April 2009)
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23rd April 2009, 10:00 AM #14
Ruckus Wireless
Hi
If you seen some of my other post about Ruckus on Edugeek, you know you cant go wrong with it, I can easily get 30 to 60+ wireless N laptops to login to one AP no problems! No drop outs no problems. Currently the school has 150x Asus EEE 1000h which they get used a lot now.
students can all log in between 30seconds to 2 mins depending on how many users are login on at one time but the problem doesn't rely on Ruckus wireless, the problems is my 1 DC server has never had so many users log in at one time and cant cope with the demand.
To insure fast login times you need to have
- small mandatory profiles
- short log on scripts
look in to your network layout and performance
- Having a 2gigabit from the server using Network teaming to a gigabit switch
- gigabit network connections to each AP
oh yeh get some PoE switches makes life easily when deploying APs
Good Luck
Steve long
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2 Thanks to stevenlong1985:
CPLTD (23rd April 2009), MarkPower (23rd April 2009)
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30th April 2009, 10:49 AM #15 Another 1 for Ruckus here. Been using it for a while now with a couple of laptop trolleys and it has eliminated the problems we were getting.
The school is about to start a major refurbishment program, so I'm looking to possible using the bridging capabilities of Ruckus to get the network to parts of the School were the networt is going to be ripped out of. Going to be a nightmare.
Pete
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