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    Re: Number of Servers

    2000 users, 700 workstations, 150 laptops

    3 domain controllers win2k
    1 standalone server
    1 exchange 5.5 server
    1 isa 2004 server
    1 backup
    1 ghost server
    2 (identical) print servers
    1 linux proxy
    1 mac server
    1 linux gateway (mac network > academic network)


    next week we're getting

    3 new rack servers (to replace 2 dc + 1 exchange 2003)
    2 nas boxes

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    Re: Number of Servers

    1 Exchange 2003
    1 ISA 2004
    1 Print
    1 DHCP etc
    1 Backup
    1 Applications
    1 NAS

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    Re: Number of Servers

    We are running 10 servers, as follows:
    1) PDC/ file server
    2) Print server
    3) Web/Proxy server (Unix)
    4) 4 x Citrix Application servers (Thin Client network)
    5) Key Skills Trainer server
    6) Admin/SIMS server
    7) Backup server for Admin/SIMS
    I know this looks like seven, but check out number 4. Might setup a BDC at some stage & add more Application servers as the network grows.

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    Re: Number of Servers

    Curriculum Network
    About 280 clients
    6 standalone PC's (in Music)
    1 FR
    2 DC's
    1 CMIS server
    1 web proxy server

    Admin Network
    1 DC / SIMS server
    25 clients

    Admin network and SIMS are being decom'd and users migrated to CMIS and the curriculum network.

    Staff
    Me
    Part of a part-time administrator

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    Re: Number of Servers

    1 Admin
    2 DNS/WINS/DC's
    1 WWW
    2 File
    1 NAS
    1 Print
    1 VoIP
    1 Voip voicemail
    1 Exchange 2003
    1 Avantis CD server (waste of time)
    1 WUS/SUS
    1 IDS
    1 SchoolGuardian

    1250 students, 150 staff, about 250 parents, 600 workstations, 150 laptops, no electricity

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    Re: Number of Servers

    39.. Made up of a 12 server Citrix farm, file servers for each year group and one for staff, Exchange, SIMS, 3 DC's, several webservers, the Bursary servers and several others. And a NWN server...

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    Re: Number of Servers

    A pitiful 6 here...
    DC, File, SQL, Mail, ISA, Backup.
    Obviously, some servers do several jobs!
    Plus a load of redundant old CSE servers just sat there, switched off. NM 'plans' to reintegrate them as a streaming media server amongst other things.

    It'll never be done :-D

    300odd machines, 1000 students, 250 staff, 20 laptops, a few numpties, a hamster in a corner on its wheel and no air conditioning.

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    Re: Number of Servers

    @Abaddon - How big is the school then?

    Wes

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    Re: Number of Servers

    We have about 1300 students (all of whom will have access to the Citrix servers from home starting in September), 150-odd teaching staff + support staff. There are around 300 PC's and 140 laptops (for staff).

    Some of it is duplication due to the fact we have two entirely distinct networks - one for academic and one for admin/bursary, as there have always been security concerns from the powers that be. Hopefully, this is being addressed over the next term, and I can get on with merging the domains!

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    Re: Number of Servers

    How much did the citrix system cost in rough terms on a per pupil basis?

    I think I'll have to have a look at this for the school when the laptops for pupils scheme gets underway. Pupils working from home then the dream of BSF could be forefilled we could just have one building per county a big server farm and everything is done remotely lol frightening thought!

    Wes

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    Re: Number of Servers

    Putting aside the cost of the hardware and the Citrix itself, we bought 200 Citrix licenses at about £120 each... we haven't actually had that many people on at once yet, but that may (and probably will!) change in September when we open it up properly. Also you need to factor in the TS client requirements, both internal and external. We bought an unlimited external license, and 200 internal CAL's for that.

    So I guess you could sat that is was about £130 per connection to the farm, with 200 as a limit. If you start factoring in the initial cost of the hardware and the Citrix application itself, it would be going up considerably...

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    Re: Number of Servers

    Terminal Service Client? £9-13 I think from Ramesys But the external License? How much are they?

    Wes

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    Re: Number of Servers

    Yes.. you still need the TS license (£9.50 we paid, each) in addition to the Citrix ones... the external connector is.. uh.. about £1,500...

    Looking back at the records for last year, the Citrix cost is totally connection based, so you pay per connection - there is no additional cost for the actual product itself, and it was £125 per Citrix Licence (that's for Enterprise Edition, Standard would be a bit cheaper)

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    Re: Number of Servers

    ok, approx 1000 enrolled users, 350 clients inc. notebooks

    Admin Network:

    1x Windows 2003 (single forest)
    (SIMS, Pupil Reports, Sophos EMLibrary)

    Curriculum Network: (single tree)
    1x Novell OES (netware core) - HYDRA
    (NAMP, Zenworks for Desktops, File and Print, LDAP Primary)
    1x Novell OES (netware core) - PHOENIX
    (NAMP, File and Print, DNS/DHCP, VLE Content Store)
    1x Novell OES (netware core) - GRYFIN
    (NAMP, File and Print)
    1x Novell OES (SUSE core)
    (LAMP, Squid Proxy, Firewall)
    1x Redhat - LEA managed and supplied
    (Proxy, Cached content store)
    1x Windows 2000 - MAILHOST
    (Mail Server, Edexcel Exambase, Sophos EM Library)
    1x Windows 2000 - EXAMSERVER1
    (QCA KS3 ICT, Kaleidos VLE)

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    Re: Number of Servers

    Curriculum:
    1 DC/File/Print - 2K3
    1 Mailserver - OSX server
    1 Webserver - LAMP

    Admin:
    1 DC/SIMS - 2K3

    Adding next month:
    1 SuccessMaker - 2K3
    1 Proxy - Smoothwall/Dansgardian || Censornet
    1 OCS Inventory - LAMPP (maybe)

    ~600 students ~50 teachers/support staff ~45 desktops ~75 laptops and ~30 old iMacs/eMacs gathering dust



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