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    How do people keep their office and curriculum networks separate, if you do at all?

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    We used to have them all on one subnet, but just have the admin machines join a different domain to our CC3. Then we integrated both networks and never looked back since

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    We have an Admin and curriculum network seperated by a V-LAN on our switch. Admin can access Curriculum but Curriculum can not access Admin.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    Separate, different IP ranges, one way trust, curric trusts admin, works fine.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    Originally the two networks only physically met at the Internet router and now there is a connection from admin to curriculum but only to the mail server with 2 nics.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    We have an Admin and curriculum network seperated by a V-LAN on our switches and we subnet different areas of the school to Admin or Curriculum depending on the conection to the switches

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    I'm not sure I see any great advantage with keeping the networks seperate. I combined both networks 2 1/2 years ago, and haven't run in to any major issues. I find that most of the same services are required for both sets of users, so they might as well be provided from a single source.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    In Lancashire thats just the way the LEA have recommended or set up the networks. Our internet access originally was from a router with 2 ports. Its now our microwave dish to a vlaned switch. I dont like having two networks as it means doing a lot of stuff twice in some cases but for now were stuck with it. Eventually I hope to move to one network.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    We look after two schools. The Primary Scholl has two separate IP Address Ranges as supplied when they attached to the London Grid for Learning via the LEA. This is known as "Option 1" and seems to be being used by a fair number of schools in our area. At the Senior School we are on "Option 2" mainly because we have our own firewall and this gives us 16 "public" addresses to use for things like a web server or VPN (if we ever get the time to look at something like that!) Internally we use one IP Subnet and separate the users currently by Domains. This may all change though as we intend to move to one Domain soon and lock down everything via security and permissions.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    Ours are two lans but really one (confusing hey!) Its two IP ranges, two subnets, they share various servers, but have some independant ones

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    We are intending to combine our 2 Networks this summer using Permissions to lock down the standard stuff and IPSEC for securing the SIMS traffic.

    We just need to persuade staff that allowing kids to use their logons to print in colour unsupervised is definately not a good idea (its bad enough as it is) and that locking the machine when you step away from it is not just there to annoy you.
    Is anyone using Smartcard authentication or anything similar for admin access? we are just bouncing a few ideas around at the moment.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    We have 2 seperate domains sharing the same ip range. The admin doamin used to use a trust to connect to the curriculum domain to allow it access internet, exchange server and various shares but since we migrated the curriulum domain to Windows 2003 (the admin domain is Windows 2000) I have had some many problems that I am seriously considering merging the 2 doimans into one.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    We used tohave them seperate but around 2 years ago we joined them to one.

    Not had any issues at all.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    We have one network for both admin & curriculum. We use group policy to prevent students logging onto staff laptops & vice-versa. (Stops teachers 'borrowing' laptops from curriculum). Single file server with seperate 'staff' and 'student' drives in same RAID5 array, dedicated SIMS server, print server, proxy etc.

    We do have issues with staff leaving machines logged on, unlocked although staff have been told many many times. (You can tell a teacher, but not much!) This was true before we joined admin & curriculum.

    I reckon the biggest threat to our network is lax attitude from staff towards security. I have documented the threat to SMT and staff have been warned by SMT it is a disciplinary matter if security is breached because of them.

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    Re: keeping office and curric separate

    If you bring the Data Protection Act into the warnings about security aimed at SMT they may listen

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