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    The R700 is Ruckus's AC AP and is available now.

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    I'd be interested to know if that Ruckas needs a 30watt POE supply.

    The arubas need to use POE+ to get the full speed so we had to replace a few switches as well. Apparently the Meru devices don't need this.

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    From the Ruuckus website; PoE: 802.3af compliant

    Yoiu are correct about the Meru AP832, it will run AC at full power on both radios using af power

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    As mentioned above the R700 is Ruckus' current wave 1 11AC product. Their 11ac products will work seamlessly (with full functionality) with existing 802.3af PoE switch infrastructures.

    They produced an interesting blog last September about the power requirement of 11AC products and their approach to it if anyone was interested: POWER STRUGGLE - The Ruckus Room

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    Ruckus AC ZoneFlex R700 | Ruckus Wireless, Inc. - I havent tried this myself but I have utilised other AC access points and I have been impressed. I know everyone already knows this but I loved 5ghz on the AC protocol. I really did notice the difference. I cant say I was in a noisy environment but I had used n protocol on 2.4 in the same area and the results were significantly improved. I know AC is the way forward and I will be certainly looking to move everything to this protocol over the coming times. Enjoy guys

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    Also worth a thought is what happens to your dual radio AC AP (2.4GHz & 5GHz) when the 2.4 clients start to, and completely disappear. I am told that some vendors' APs will operate 5 on both but some will effectively have a redundant radio.

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    Not sure if im not understanding your point njc235 - Are you saying some manufacturers are considering dropping 2.4ghz from AP's - surely not. 5ghz is good for open spaces, large areas etc. but the cost of infrastructure would rise rapidly as you would need almost and AP per room (I get I am over dramatising a little here). I cant see 2.4 not being used - I can actually see a few more freq used in the future - Ofcom have already relaxed some of the frequency licensing now - I expect that will filter through to the rest of the market and eventually we will have tri band AP's being common place.

    Apologies if I'm missing your point njc235

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    I am suggesting that the number of 2.4 clients will probably fall off as the number of AC clients rise. If that is the case then the need for a 2.4 radio will be diminished.

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    Oh I see, Thought I was missing some part of that. Still not sure that will happen - I just expect devices will operate on more and more frequencies - as is happening with cellular networks. The Iphone couldn't operate on O2's 4G frequency but they just made the device able to use that aswell.

    Im sure the clients operating on 2.4 will reduce and 5 will increase but as devices increase Im still sure we will have AP's that operate on something like tri-band then quad band in order to satisfy more BYOD's etc. But only time will tell on that front I suppose :-)

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    The Aruba 802.11ac transmitters require 30 watts per port to run at full speed (although they do still work slower using normal POE)

    I've upgraded our switches to these GS510TP POE+ switches which cost around £800 for the entire site, serving 32 transmitters

    GS510TP.jpg

    Basically it wasn't that big a deal.

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    Our 802.11ac deployment is now complete with 40 x Aruba 225 transmitters all around the school.

    I'll update when I get some feedback from users about the speeds and range of the new devices.

    I see from the management portal that most users are still connecting under 450mbps but that's certainly better than the 65mbps maximum we had before

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    How much was it costing you per access point? We've got 40 + AP-93's at the moment and 15 or so AP-105's

    The AP-93's only either 2.4ghz or 5ghz, the 105's run both. Rather annoying

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    Hi njc235 & craig4gon,



    Some interesting points - did you know that the802.11ac standard is 5 GHz only. Not many of the sales guys tell you that the 2.4ghz bit is only 802.11n.



    To me (looking at the macro level) it’s more of a steppingstone to 802.11ax which is looking at combining 2.4 and 5GHz and hopefully(please do!!) 60ghz but it isn`t standardised yet.



    I also wonder if it will get canned like others have. Itmight be better if they merged, if possible/suitable the mobile (LTE etc.) and Wi-Fi(802.11...) standards - just a thought!


    If you want a glimpse of the wireless future then have alook at this video on the BBC BBC News - How will the 5G network change the world?



    If this doesn`t get your techie bits excited then I`m notsure what will!

    regards


    Aidan











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    Hi Zag,


    Amazing connectivity speeds. Have you tried any throughput tests?


    Not to sure whats available on macs. I use nuttcp on linux and win.


    Apparently lperf works on mac osx.


    It would be interesting to see.


    regards


    Aidan

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrCheese View Post
    How much was it costing you per access point? We've got 40 + AP-93's at the moment and 15 or so AP-105's

    The AP-93's only either 2.4ghz or 5ghz, the 105's run both. Rather annoying
    AP-225's were £582.75 each



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