*CRYING* Help with a BroadBand Router and our Network

[GrumbleDook]

Ping and nslookup are your friends

Disable your wireless connection.

Firstly ping the localhost of your laptop (ping 127.0.0.1)
The ping the assigned address (ping 10.98.2.121)
Then ping the lan port of the belkin router (ping 10.98.2.11)
Then ping the WAN port of your belkin router (I don't know this ...)

Once you know that these work then you can start checking your DNS.
Firstly ping the DNS servers of the ISP for your ADLS line (rather than internal), then make sure at least one of those is your primary DNS on the laptop.
nslookup <DNS SERVER IP ADDRESS>
Then trace the connection to the DNS server
tracert <DNS SERVER HOSTNAME>

The aboce can help you tracking down which chunk has the break in communication.

[ninjabeaver]

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

H:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : lap-54
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ????????.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ????????.local

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-35-8D-06-86
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.226
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.8
10.98.2.9

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-70-77-01
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.121
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.11
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.8
10.98.2.9

More info for you.

[DMcCoy]

H:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : lap-54
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : parkhigh.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : parkhigh.local

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-35-8D-06-86
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.226
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.8
10.98.2.9

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-70-77-01
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.121
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.11
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.98.2.8
10.98.2.9

More info for you.

Should the gateway be set on the wireless card and not the ethernet card? You can't talk to the belkin though ethernet now can you :P

Try removing the gateway for the ethernet and making the gateway for the wireless the router.

David

[ninjabeaver]

OK, its working. Thats another lesson learned for me. Big thanks to Geoff and ChrisH for their patience and also to DMcCoy and GrumbleDook. I've learned something new today. The team always comes through in the end.

I'm going to edit some of my previous posts to remove any addresses etc.

I put the DNS Server the same IP as my Belkin and it works ops: . DOH!!

[Geoff]

Sounds like your AD DNS servers don't have forwarders setup btw.

[spc-rocket]

Agree with Geoff,

You need to enter your ISP's DNS servers in forwarders section. This will solve your problems of entering your ISP dns servers in your clients.

Ashok.

[ninjabeaver]

Tell me more guys, how do I go about this. County Council set all this up for us just over a year ago now. Would that explain why I can't get the Microsoft Update to run on the servers (it wont validate as a genuine copy)?

Thanks

[ChrisH]

Thats a dodgey key beaver that. Basically all worstations should point to 2 of your DNS servers. These dns servers should then have your county DNS server as a forwarder.

[GrumbleDook]

And don't forget, in the TCP/IP settings of your DCs / DNS servers ... the DNS should point to your internal DNS servers ... not the county or ISP servers. You should only point to them in the settings of your forwarders.

The process is something like this.

Workstation/server ---> Internal DNS Server ---> (via info from forwarder) External DNS Server (ISP or County)

If you miss out the internal bit, that is when you can get problems.

[ninjabeaver]

Thats a dodgey key beaver that.

I was suspicious about that. I'm on the phone to them later then, if they answer. If it was me and the dodgy key, fair enough, but it was a County Council Techie and his crew doing the installs for everything.

@GrumbleDook OK mate, I'm looking into that as well later. This is all new to me. lol. Some Network Manager eh! Thats what you get for working on a 'if it aint broken dont fix it' policy. Obviously it is broken though.

[ChrisH]

I have tried it with a keygenned corp key before to see what it does and it knocked it back. I tried with our county corp key and it worked fine.