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    Applying Updates to Servers

    Hi,

    I would like to know some opinions on updates as I'm unsure of the best route to take.

    I was wondering on the issue of applying critical/patches updates on servers. Previously I've had a couple of issues where an update has caused a server to crash and not recover without extensive repair work.

    Currently I have several servers (2003) ticking along nicely but there is a fair amount of updates to put on if I decide to do so.
    I feel its a kind of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' policy as everything is working so well.
    Crazy really that you have to think twice about applying updates in case it causes problems you didn't have in the first place.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    I let them download to the server but then have it wait for me to tell it that it can install.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Great sympathy, I'm in the same boat with a vanilla Win 2K server which hugely crashed twice a couple of years ago post applying critical updates. This took some getting back from and it was the considerable help of a colleague that eventually set us sailing again.

    Since then I have been almost frightened to apply updates to the beast. However, l had to to attempt the Sophos update in the Easter break, all went well with the MS updates but the Sophos EM refused to apply. Life ain't easy is it!

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    I follow the same system as ChrisH - they are downloaded and sit there until I have the time to install them - usually during holidays.

    The thing with updates is, if they are patching security holes, we are legally obligated to install them on any machine which holds data covered by the data protection act, as failing to do so would be failing to ensure the security of the data.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    The thing with updates is, if they are patching security holes, we are legally obligated to install them on any machine which holds data covered by the data protection act, as failing to do so would be failing to ensure the security of the data.
    That's an interesting way to spin it? Are you 100% about it? Because if so, I have a problem..

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Just recently up here in the north CLEO's IIS for dishing out the latest Sophos virus definitions was brought down by applying an update.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    I am pretty sure - think of it this way, you store the kids information in a filing cabinet, and you know that if you kick the thing in a certain way on that model, the cabinet just unlocks - and this is a known problem that everyone knows. This would be a violation if it weren't fixed in some way as you wouldn't be taking reasonable precautions to prevent access to that information.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Unless information is stored in a filling cabinet in a specific manner that allows someone looking for information to be able to go directly to the relevant section without rifling through other papers first then it's not covered under the DPA anyway.

    Ben

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    We also let them download and then install them when needed. However, I did complete some updates the other day, had issues with RIS and VPN afterwards!!!

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Quote Originally Posted by plexer
    Unless information is stored in a filling cabinet in a specific manner that allows someone looking for information to be able to go directly to the relevant section without rifling through other papers first then it's not covered under the DPA anyway.
    It was an example... I know it isn't specifically covered by the DPA but it is covered by the responsibility to keep things safe. Regardless of our legal responsibilities, we have a responsibility to protect the children in school.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    let them download to the server but then have it wait for me to tell it that it can install.

    Same here

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Only install updates during Easter, Xmas or Summer Hols. That way if there is a problem I have some time to try and resolve it !!
    Workstations get them as and when - easier to fix if there is a problem.
    I have not had a problem with any MS updates but a few Sophos - [ cough cough ] Sigs have caused BSOD on workstations which I was not very impressed about....
    Touch wood, SP2 for Sever 2003 I have just installed have not caused any problems - there is still time though !!

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Quote Originally Posted by mattx
    Only install updates during Easter, Xmas or Summer Hols. That way if there is a problem I have some time to try and resolve it !!
    Workstations get them as and when - easier to fix if there is a problem.
    I have not had a problem with any MS updates but a few Sophos - [ cough cough ] Sigs have caused BSOD on workstations which I was not very impressed about....
    Touch wood, SP2 for Sever 2003 I have just installed have not caused any problems - there is still time though !!
    I'm certain you're going to discover some SP2 problems! I did! :P

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Quote Originally Posted by plock
    I'm certain you're going to discover some SP2 problems! I did! :P
    such as?

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    RIS, VPN and SharePoint issues... everything else seems to be running smoothly! :S

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