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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    sweeeet, nothing that I use then. ta.
    light the blue touchpaper and stand clear.......

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    hehe, hopefully you will be 'OK' then! I do wish I had left the updates until the holiday though. I do like that idea suggested above. I think it's something I may implement here!

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Quote Originally Posted by mattx
    Only install updates during Easter, Xmas or Summer Hols. That way if there is a problem I have some time to try and resolve it !!
    Workstations get them as and when - easier to fix if there is a problem.
    I have not had a problem with any MS updates but a few Sophos - [ cough cough ] Sigs have caused BSOD on workstations which I was not very impressed about....
    Touch wood, SP2 for Sever 2003 I have just installed have not caused any problems - there is still time though !!
    Thats the way i do it, unless its somthing major like blaster. Sometimes i really hate doing it, as SP1 for XP made XP error when deleting files of network drives, had to get a hotfix of MS for that, SP2 caused the Applying your personal settings to hang for about 20 seconds, took months for MS to do somthing about that, so another hotfix to apply.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Indeed, a very sensible way of doing it.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Patches here are set to download and prompt on servers.
    I usually leave it until Friday, and keep an eye on various mailing lists and websites during the week to see if there are problems. If there are none, I install them.
    Servers reboot in a staggered fashion over the weekend automatically.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    Patches here are set to download and prompt on servers.
    I usually leave it until Friday, and keep an eye on various mailing lists and websites during the week to see if there are problems. If there are none, I install them.
    Servers reboot in a staggered fashion over the weekend automatically.
    I'd be interested in knowing the mailing lists and websites you use? Would definitely help in tracking any likely issues!

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    There has to be a degree of risk assessment. Do you have to have the latest IE patch if you don't use a server for web browsing. Vulnerabilities affecting services connected to open ports are another matter.

    @Geoff what do you do in a zero day scenario? Do you just patch an d pray or still wait and see, hoping IDS will see you right?

    Would be nice to hear from Ric_ & Cybernerd on how they do things on terminal servers. Here you have end-user applications e.g. web browsers and a single point of failure. Do you segregate server access based on whether the user is a staff or student?

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    There has to be a degree of risk assessment. Do you have to have the latest IE patch if you don't use a server for web browsing. Vulnerabilities affecting services connected to open ports are another matter.
    I usually look at the ISC diary posting for an overview of how critical things are. For example, here's Julys assessment.

    http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3120

    what do you do in a zero day scenario? Do you just patch an d pray or still wait and see, hoping IDS will see you right?
    Given the speed at which MS reacts to 0day exploits. I have no choice. I have to rely on my IDS/Firewall/NAC/AV.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost
    Hi,

    I would like to know some opinions on updates as I'm unsure of the best route to take.

    I was wondering on the issue of applying critical/patches updates on servers. Previously I've had a couple of issues where an update has caused a server to crash and not recover without extensive repair work.

    Currently I have several servers (2003) ticking along nicely but there is a fair amount of updates to put on if I decide to do so.
    I feel its a kind of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' policy as everything is working so well.
    Crazy really that you have to think twice about applying updates in case it causes problems you didn't have in the first place.

    Regards
    The number one rule is to always have a backup before you make any updates or changes.At least then you can go ahead and make the updates and know that if it nacks up you can revert back to the backup. I always read what the update is for before i go ahead with applying it.

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Gonna be installing 2003 SP2 next week.

    Hopefully everything should go ok 8O

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Cheers, I'll keep a close eye on these!

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Thanks Geoff

    for the links aswell


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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    I have a phobia of most things Automatic so I just go to the Update site and download and install them manually.

    On a side note, am I correct in that if I install SP2 I can choose the legacy mode of RIS and nothing will change in it?

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    Re: Applying Updates to Servers

    Server updates are a strictly end of term affair for me. By this time others have ran the patch and found the problems Plus it gives me two weeks to check everything is ok and fix any problems.

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