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28th June 2010, 07:57 PM #1
Can this be done with our current equipment ? (VLAN / Wireless / Smoothwall)
Our network currently consists of a mix of Netgear GS724tv2 and GS748tv2 switches which are working fine (multi cabinet network over the site with gbic fibre converters), we are in the process of adding wireless access points to the network (Dlink dwl-2100)
and are looking at adding guest access to the internet through our smoothwall school guardian.
So with this equipment is it possible to setup VLANs with dual SSID for this purpose ?
been playing about with it today and just can't seem to make it work - so just wondering wether or not its the hardware at fault.
The switches seem to have vlan capability and the access points have multi SSID but - not had a lot of luck.
Any pointers would be appreciated
29th June 2010, 12:29 PM #2
6th January 2011, 05:19 PM #3
- Rep Power
Looking for answers to the same questions. Sorry, what does "nm sussed" mean?
6th January 2011, 10:23 PM #4
means I worked it out for myself - I set up a small test network and played around till it worked
I ended up using two school guardian firewalls - just made things easier. I can explain better when i'm back at work tomorrow if you like.
6th January 2011, 10:24 PM #5
- Rep Power
That would be great. Thanks.
7th January 2011, 01:11 PM #6
Ok, here's what i did with the switches, bare with me I'm rubbish at writing docs
also i've got nowhere to upload images at the mo so i've attached them.
This is for the GS724T switches, the GS748tv2 are a little different
This is the main lan, the lan that all machines are tied to. All the ports are untagged with the exception of port 22 which is the link to the 2nd firewall
This is the lan for the wireless access points, now this is where it gets fun
ports 1,2,3 there are links to the wireless access points and are tagged (T)
port 22 is untagged as this goes to the firewall
ports 23,24 are uplinks with gbics - ALL uplinks have to be tagged on ALL switches - else the tags wont get broadcast
Port VLAN ID's
This is where you give the ports IDs as to which VLAN they are sitting on
As you can see ports 1,2,3 (Wireless access points) are assigned to VLAN2 as is port 22(The firewall)
The rest of the ports are assigned to VLAN1
One thing to remember is ports 23,24 - The uplink ports have to stay assigned to VLAN1 they just pass the tag info around.
Thats pretty much it for the switches, only problem with this is that the wireless access points and the firewall cannot be access from VLAN1 (I added a 3rd nic to the firewall connected to VLAN1 so I can easily administer it)
As a result - i've no screenshots of the wireless access points - but if i remember correctly they were straightforward to set up - the hardest part (for me) was setting up the switches.
Hope this is ok, well at least provides some pointers
7th January 2011, 02:34 PM #7
- Rep Power
I actually think I get it. Thank you for the helpful information. :-)
7th January 2011, 04:36 PM #8
no problem, happy to help!
8th January 2011, 03:33 AM #9
just outta curosity, did you have to get another license for smoothwall?
8th January 2011, 08:01 AM #10
No, see this thread I started Schoolguardian and vlans
worked out great as I cobbled together a pc using old parts so essentially cost nothing - did all of this guest access stuff on a shoestring!
forgot to add
The wireless access points have to support multissid
Set the main vlan1 SSID with strong key and I disabled broadcasting (bit of a hassle setting up the laptops but its all done now)
second SSID on vlan2 is unsecured
Second firewall on vlan2 Is transparent and dishes out IP addresses
14th April 2011, 09:36 AM #11
- Rep Power
was wondering if you would be kind enough to help me out with setting up of my vlans.
is the FS526T similar to the ones that you have used?
I also have a server 2008 box running dhcp server and have already set up the two scopes in there. I also have a standard WAG120N wireless router. I plan to setup a wrg54gl in the second vlan. I also have a GS105E which i can throw into the mix if need be.
14th April 2011, 01:37 PM #12
A quick read of the FS526T manual tells me that they look similar, but hard to tell with netgear products, only way to find out is set up some test environment if you have the spare equipment.
We only have one scope on the server - the other smoothwall box takes care of the leases for the wireless network, remember that the wireless environment is completely seperate from the main lan
thanks to the vlan also our router isn't wireless, we rely on access points for that. Also probably no need for 2 routers if your router has lan ports
14th April 2011, 07:14 PM #13
- Rep Power
thanks for getting back to me, much appreciated.
This is currently my home setup, which is where i do all my testing. Im just brushing up on things, always useful lol
could you tell me what the physical setup and the config on the switch should be?
My current setup consists of the following:
Switch with default vlan (all ports) DHCP taken from server
WAG120N wireless router connected to switch (static IP 192.168.1.x assigned)
DHCP Server connected to switch
Client machines wired to switch
Wireless devices connect straight to router.
What I want to do is split the switch in two and have the second vlan on the 192.168.2.x scope.
I can setup a smoothwall box thats not a problem - ill figure out using the dhcp server with both vlans afterwards.
The second vlan will be used as a less secure network and i have another router (WRG54GL) which i would like to use for the wireless on that scope.
I can tell im over complicating the explanation a little... do u get it? lol
15th April 2011, 10:27 AM #14
tried dd-wrt firmware on the routers ? I believe they support vlan
Other than that i'd start off simple
maybe 2 nics in the server with 2 scopes connected to the switch
then set up the vlan similar to my instructions then try devices on different ports on the switch to see what IP they pick up
this is more or less what i did - I used our spare switch and created a small network, when i got it working i just scaled it up to the full network (9 cabs and lotsa switches!)
16th April 2011, 03:42 AM #15
- Rep Power
ddwrt isnt compatible with the WAG120N but is with the wireless router. Im going to have a play around with it this weekend. Ill report my findings!
Thanks for your help
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