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    Building a new network. What have i missed off the price up.

    Hi.

    Im speccing up a new network, having finally be given the 'go-ahead' to go into the 'advanced planning stage'.

    Is there anything im missing off the costs here:

    New servers.
    Monitoring software licences.
    Rackmounts for existing servers.
    Existing servers upgrades.
    Infrastructure work.
    Server OS Licences.
    VPN Concentrator.

    Anything im missing?

    Thanks.

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    Is it just the server room that is getting an upgrade?
    If so, how about cabling, switches, air con etc?

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    Backup Solutions
    Training?

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    what about Client Machines?

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    Nice new switches, with a managed wireless solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomam View Post
    Hi.

    Im speccing up a new network, having finally be given the 'go-ahead' to go into the 'advanced planning stage'.

    Is there anything im missing off the costs here:

    New servers.
    Monitoring software licences.
    Rackmounts for existing servers.
    Existing servers upgrades.
    Infrastructure work.
    Server OS Licences.
    VPN Concentrator.

    Anything im missing?

    Thanks.
    gigait core switches inc. SFP's
    edge switches inc. SFP's
    KVM w/ IP capability
    Wifi AP's
    Wifi management appliance
    rackmount tft
    Rack
    environmental monitoring
    SAN storage
    UPS
    PDU's

    and that's just for starters

    What's you're budget btw ?

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    An allowance for over time or hiring in additional help in case things overrun for any reason.

    It is also worth budgeting at least an extra 20% in case you discover during implementation that something is missing or if there is a sudden price hike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennT View Post
    Is it just the server room that is getting an upgrade?
    If so, how about cabling, switches, air con etc?
    Just the server room.
    Cabling is included in the infrastruture work, where ive been quoted for 2 new 800x1000 42u cabs & the moving of all the existing switches, patch panels, fiber, etc; to the new cabs.
    And we've already got Aircon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylv3r View Post
    Backup Solutions
    Training?
    Backups will be done with Symantec BackupExec 10d to one of the servers, a backup server with several Tb of space.

    Quote Originally Posted by FN-Greatermanchester View Post
    what about Client Machines?
    Not upgrading the existing ones. All are upto spec bar a few which are on a different plan. .

    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    Nice new switches, with a managed wireless solution?
    All our switches are HP Procurves, with the primary being a 28xx series, and the rest being 2626 or 1800s.
    Wireless isnt a priority at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by torledo View Post
    gigait core switches inc. SFP's
    edge switches inc. SFP's
    KVM w/ IP capability
    Wifi AP's
    Wifi management appliance
    rackmount tft
    Rack
    environmental monitoring
    SAN storage
    UPS
    PDU's

    and that's just for starters

    What's you're budget btw ?
    The main switch is all gigabit, with every switch on the network in a stared topology.
    KVM isnt really needed, but i do plan to spec it in. Are there any solutions that are all intergrated with a LCD rack mount?
    WiFi isnt needed or planned.
    Racks & SAN arent needed either. We already have several UPS's.
    We have a 12way PSU specced too.

    Enviromental monitoring, im not sure if its needed or not tbh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_ View Post
    An allowance for over time or hiring in additional help in case things overrun for any reason.

    It is also worth budgeting at least an extra 20% in case you discover during implementation that something is missing or if there is a sudden price hike.
    Additional help has been specced in. I planned on speccing in an 10% 'contingency fund'. Although thats likely to grow a bit as i forgot to price up wo/ VAT.



    Thanks for all the input guys/gals..
    Much appricaited, keep it coming. .

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    You should have a think about enviromental monitoring and also check that your air-con is man enough to support the additional equipment that is being installed. It may be worth speaking to the Facilities Manager to see what he thinks?
    Sounds like you are gonna have quite a decent server room! I'm jealous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennT View Post
    You should have a think about enviromental monitoring and also check that your air-con is man enough to support the additional equipment that is being installed. It may be worth speaking to the Facilities Manager to see what he thinks?
    Sounds like you are gonna have quite a decent server room! I'm jealous!
    We dont have a facilites manager. .
    Although when i talked to the contractor who fitted the AirCon unit, i was told that as the room was small, considering the size of the AirCon, increasing the equipment in the room 3-4 times over whats already here would still be well within the capibilites of the unit. .

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    try an Air Con calculator just to be safe.

    http://www.climate-aircon.co.uk/calculator.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomam View Post
    We dont have a facilites manager. .
    Although when i talked to the contractor who fitted the AirCon unit, i was told that as the room was small, considering the size of the AirCon, increasing the equipment in the room 3-4 times over whats already here would still be well within the capibilites of the unit. .
    In which case, it sounds like you are sorted!
    Good luck!

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    Are the HP KVM products any good?

    The only rackmountable 8way+ KVM switch, with slide out keyboard/mouse/monitor, thats also IP viewable that ive seen costs over £2000!!!.
    Any recommendations on them?
    its doubtful i'd use the monitor much, although for space saving, it would be handy to have the option there. Although it'd be far cheaper i'd asume to get an IP KVM, and then a normal KVM for physical access to the stations with a normal keyboard/mouse/monitor at the side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomam View Post
    Are the HP KVM products any good?

    The only rackmountable 8way+ KVM switch, with slide out keyboard/mouse/monitor, thats also IP viewable that ive seen costs over £2000!!!.
    Any recommendations on them?
    its doubtful i'd use the monitor much, although for space saving, it would be handy to have the option there. Although it'd be far cheaper i'd asume to get an IP KVM, and then a normal KVM for physical access to the stations with a normal keyboard/mouse/monitor at the side?
    Yes you could get a standard 8 or 16 way KVM and get an external box for IP access. But quality products will still set you back around £1000.

    A good rack mount TFT drawer (and you don't need bigger than 15inch) would be another £500-£700. So the HP all-in-one solution isn't bad value but sourcing seperate components would be cheaper.

    If you can't afford that go for the normal TFT monitor option, but TFT are an extremely elegant solution.

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    Blimey!
    How much money have you got for this project??

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