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    Not a clue.
    Ive been asked to spec it all up in various ways.
    Like bare essentials, recomended, best, etc;
    Then ive gotta negotiate with the powers that be for the cash to do it. .

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    have you included the cost of CALS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by projector1 View Post
    have you included the cost of CALS?
    Nope, but thats because we have CALs for each workstation/licence of XP. .


    Im tempted to bump all the servers upto 4Gb memory.
    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomam View Post
    Im tempted to bump all the servers upto 4Gb memory.
    Thoughts?
    I'm looking at doing that here for servers with less than 4GB in. Depending on the spec of RAM you need it's not really that expensive.

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    Just remember 4GB is about it unless you switch to 64bit or PAE aware applications.

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    I do plan on having the server OS being the 64bit varient of R2 or 2k8. .

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    Heres what i have upto now:

    Domain Controller 1
    Domain Controller 2
    File Server
    Backup File Server
    VPN Firewall
    VPN Concentrator
    Infrastructure work (new cabs, moving cabling to them, 10 way PDU, new cable runs, etc
    Upgrades for existing servers.*1
    NSS Licences.
    10x Server 2003/2008 STD Licences (for 4 new servers, 3 old servers, 2 NAS’s & one for virtual testing). *2
    ISA Server 2006/2008 Licence. *2
    KVM Rackmount (IP based).*3
    Rackmount LCD/Keyboard/Mouse.*3
    Rackmount UPS’s.*3
    Rackmounts for existing servers.
    CCC Costs.
    Papercut Licence.

    Is there anything ive missed on that that you can think ok?

    *1 Im planning on turning the current 3 servers into a Sims/SQL Server, an ISA Proxy & a WSUS/IIS/App Deployment Storage/Print server.
    The Sims SQL will be dual CPU, 4Gb & 3x300Gb RAID5 & 73Gb for the OS.
    The WSUS/etc; server will be dual CPU, 4Gb, 3x300Gb + 36Gb for the OS.
    THe ISA Proxi will be a dual CPU, 4Gb, 2x300Gb RAID0 + 36Gb for the OS.

    Do those specs seem about right?

    *2 Im unsure about the server versions as well, will the standard versions do for what we need? (2x DC, 2x File, 1x IIS/WSUS, 1x ISA, 1xSims/SQL, 2xmodified NAS, 1xVirtual).

    *3 any recommendations on the KVM & UPS?


    Thanks everyone. .
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    For the KVM, ive been told that all the HP rackmount KVMs are IP based. Is that correct?
    As it appears cheap compared to the competition at under £500.

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    Just a thought.
    We have 10d running on our current curric DC, and Veritas 10d on our admin DC.

    Out of all the servers listed, the only ones that would need backing up really would be the Sim SQL and the file server one. Correct?

    So, how many licences/what type am i likely to need.


    All i need to do now to finalise my costing for sumittal is the backup software costs, UPS advice/costs and KVM advice/costs.

    Thanks in advance all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomam View Post

    *2 Im unsure about the server versions as well, will the standard versions do for what we need? (2x DC, 2x File, 1x IIS/WSUS, 1x ISA, 1xSims/SQL, 2xmodified NAS, 1xVirtual).
    Standard should be fine [presume you mean ISA version too?]

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomam View Post
    Just a thought.
    We have 10d running on our current curric DC, and Veritas 10d on our admin DC.

    Out of all the servers listed, the only ones that would need backing up really would be the Sim SQL and the file server one. Correct?

    So, how many licences/what type am i likely to need.


    All i need to do now to finalise my costing for sumittal is the backup software costs, UPS advice/costs and KVM advice/costs.

    Thanks in advance all.
    Make sure you get the SQL agents for Backup Exec.

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    I use a number of KVM units at work and the HP ones are by FAR the best.

    I've only used them with HP servers ( 380, 385s and 580s ) but they're very near products. By far the best designed.

    The ones I have come with a KVM dongle that you place on the back of each server, this turns the connection into a CAT5 cable and runs into the KVM unit, which can be placed on the back of the pull out monitor / keyboard / mouse. The whole thing only takes up 1U of space and it's a pretty sturdy bit of kit.

    We have a number of Rittal ones at work, I can tell you now, unless they've changed in the last ~2 years when I got them, DO NOT BUY THESE. Nothing but trouble!!!

    If you're using HP servers you could always consider using iLO though. We have started to adopt that now.

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    Chekay though HP are, i see the 8 port jobbo and think "cool, £400 for a 8 port KVM with IP". They neglect to specify that you need a further grands worth of accessories for it to actually work! lol..

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    Are you getting remote management cards in the servers it gives you the option to power cycle remotely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholab View Post
    Are you getting remote management cards in the servers it gives you the option to power cycle remotely.
    This thread is 4 years old.

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