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    I do all ours too, except fibre unless preterm is feasible - got quite a bit to do this half term in fact.

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    Does it have to be ZS0H if its a patch cable going from a network port in the room up some trunking and along the top of the ceiling tiles to a AP

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    We do, least then we know it works and were it goes.

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    If I'm running a cable from back of a patch panel along the wall and to terminate in a network socket. Would you use solid core or stranded cable?

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    That would be the job for solid. Stranded is more for patch leads, and instances where the cable will get moved about a lot.

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    Thanks @Boredguy that's what I though, just wanted to check as the sales guy on the phone said stranded

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    Stranded is a whole lot easier with RJ45 crimping too.

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    mmm data cabling I need some of this in my life we have a few projects coming up yay...

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    Yeah I dont mind doing it, just some of the places that it needs to go to is difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattDLEA View Post
    Just looking for a bit of guidance on this.

    Im thinking of offering data cabling as part of my services. But not sure if there is any legal or regulations that I need to be aware of.
    So just wondered if any of you guys or gals do your own cabling?
    Im OK with making patch cables, and pretty sure i could terminate ports.

    Just every so oftern the schools want the classrooms moving round so computers move locations and the ports need moving, they get an external company in to do this who charge a fair wack.

    So would I be able to just pull that cable from its origianal port and reterminate it at another point in the room.
    Also what about running another cable run from the server room to a classroom.

    Is this doable as I am or would i need to get a certificate or something?
    We do minor runs only here - ie. odd little jobs here and there. Proper 'run new sockets' or 'move points' gets outsourced.

    With the question about pulling a cable from its original port and reterminating it at a different point? I'd advise against it. Installed cables usually use solid CAT5e, so it 'sets' in place over time. Moving it can cause the internal wires to break.

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    As many others have said, we do small runs and minor modifications, but we leave the big stuff, cabinet hangs and fibre to external contractors, mainly because it's easier and we don't really have time (or in the case of fibre, the gear.)

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    I've got over 60 new runs to install all over the site this year as we replace our WiFi. Now that's going to be fun, I just can't decide if I will double up the cables ready for AC in the future.

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    Worth getting a copy of the 17th edition onsite guide as it has a lot of useful info. Useful for planning installs and check ing sparkies work. My pet hate is seeing network cables shoved into trunking and with no separation barrier. Grrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southhamster View Post
    Worth getting a copy of the 17th edition onsite guide as it has a lot of useful info. Useful for planning installs and check ing sparkies work. My pet hate is seeing network cables shoved into trunking and with no separation barrier. Grrr.
    Yup... I spat my dummy out a while ago, we had some guys come in to add an extension to the fire alarm (which is low voltage according to the regs) but the cable is capable of taking full mains, they just jumped between our data containment and surface clipped and the mains trunking. I ended up in a meeting with the boss of their company, our site manager, our site sparks literally jabbing my finger into the page about separating low and high voltage cables and explaining to them that I really didn't want 240v up my switches, PCs or users. They re-did loads of it and we haven't seen them since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaktech View Post
    Yup... I spat my dummy out a while ago, we had some guys come in to add an extension to the fire alarm (which is low voltage according to the regs) but the cable is capable of taking full mains, they just jumped between our data containment and surface clipped and the mains trunking. I ended up in a meeting with the boss of their company, our site manager, our site sparks literally jabbing my finger into the page about separating low and high voltage cables and explaining to them that I really didn't want 240v up my switches, PCs or users. They re-did loads of it and we haven't seen them since.
    I had that joy in the refurb found my data trunking full of fire cable and I got rather arsey over it as it had space left to allow it not to be squashed and also for our next phase... needless to say the LV/HV argument came up so I threw in that fire cable has a tone on it which I didn't think would be good in with data and to prove it held a tone tool to a call-point and the purring pulsing tone was heard. In the end they removed about 95% of it from containment as it came down to X said I could use it, but when X was asked they were no way I'd never say that etc... I had mentioned before talking to X that if they didn't remove it I was chopping it out of the containment I fitted which also helped move them quickly.

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