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Wired Networks Thread, Cisco Switches in Technical; Originally Posted by FN-GM Yep already got that eyed up as well as all the Cisco gear. All servers and ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Yep already got that eyed up as well as all the Cisco gear. All servers and switches to be replaced and 66% of our clients will be replaced.

    don#t waste too much on 45xx or 65xx overkill, or even edge overkill......

    There has got to be better ways to spend the money..

    over killing switching is a massive waste which I guarantee you will regret as you cant make it benefit you.

    6hr near line backup has saved staff from disaster( 4 staff ) 3 times in the last 8 working days.

    Rob


    We are looking at 3570's for edge so we have have dual PSU and stack 9 of them.

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    We have the money to get some good stuff. Might as well go for it or else it goes down the drain... Anyway the thread isn't for talking finance.

    Did you meant to quote of the 3750's post?

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    p.s.

    Cisco is generaly very very very reliable. .. if i was running the FT stock exchange , then having dual psu on the edge would be paramount.

    in a school, if computer services go down ofsted expect this, they expect an alternate lesson plan. you will not fail an ofstead on a computer systems failure. you will fail ofstead if a teacher has not got a backup lesson,

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    We have the money to get some good stuff. Might as well go for it or else it goes down the drain... Anyway the thread isn't for talking finance.

    Did you meant to quote of the 3750's post?


    get 2 4506 cores in your server room with hrsp.

    diverse link them on 10Gb to distro rooms. with twin 3560v2 on 10gb

    then link the 3560's to 2960 edge switches...





    ps... judgement clouded by cisco-wsx-vino-red-btl-vsn2.2

    rob

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    Hi,

    If anyone is interested. We went for a pair of Cisco 4500X for the core. And then used stacks Cisco 3750's for the client machines, some POE some not. As we have loads of power problems each switch has 2 power supplies. Have had loads of PSU failures over the last 2 years!

    Thanks for the advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Hi,

    If anyone is interested. We went for a pair of Cisco 4500X for the core. And then used stacks Cisco 3750's for the client machines, some POE some not. As we have loads of power problems each switch has 2 power supplies. Have had loads of PSU failures over the last 2 years!

    Thanks for the advise.
    Cool,

    Do you have the EDGE stacks on a UPS?

    Appart from 2 450x PSU's blowing in the first 5 months back in 2008 we have had no other issues , I think that was a faulty batch ( not good a t £1k each! ) .

    Rob

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    Yep we have whole rooms UPS's on the rooms hosting the edge stacks. On the core stack (server room) we have a UPS and diesel generator protecting things.

    Hopefully should help things!

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    So your spending £100k+ on core switches?

    Outstanding!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AButters View Post
    Outstanding!!!
    Indeed they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AButters View Post
    So your spending £100k+ on core switches?

    Outstanding!!!
    not quite £100k. Infact way less then that.

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    Have you looked at other vendors such as HP or Juniper ? Cisco are great but they can be more expensive, and you can sometimes get more out of your kit for less money than you can with Cisco and if IIRC Cisco's licensing and support costs are through the roof!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpjitservices View Post
    Have you looked at other vendors such as HP or Juniper ? Cisco are great but they can be more expensive, and you can sometimes get more out of your kit for less money than you can with Cisco and if IIRC Cisco's licensing and support costs are through the roof!
    Yep they where looked at.

    We still have spare money, we hand the funds for them. The money was ring fenced for a very specific purpose.

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    I love the world we live in, where if one place doesn't spend it they lose it. So schools/ councils buy laods of stuff they might not need just because they have to spend the money.

    Nothing like someone willing to hold there hand up and say wait a minute we don't need all this money give it to someone else. Not saying you should have to FN-GM, I am just saying in general, places burn money on things. That same money might have been used elsewhere in society, such as an old persons heating...

    In reality if a school/ council said we don't need that money for that it would probably go back to central government and wasted by them on something else anyway, instead of used to lower a budget deficit, or help someone in need but still, makes you think.

    As if to backup my point, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25094100 Councils returning money that wasn't spent in time to private developers, it is money wasted on a much bigger scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achandler View Post
    I love the world we live in, where if one place doesn't spend it they lose it. So schools/ councils buy laods of stuff they might not need just because they have to spend the money.

    Nothing like someone willing to hold there hand up and say wait a minute we don't need all this money give it to someone else. Not saying you should have to FN-GM, I am just saying in general, places burn money on things. That same money might have been used elsewhere in society, such as an old persons heating...

    In reality if a school/ council said we don't need that money for that it would probably go back to central government and wasted by them on something else anyway, instead of used to lower a budget deficit, or help someone in need but still, makes you think.

    As if to backup my point, BBC News - £1.5bn 'community cash' unspent by English councils Councils returning money that wasn't spent in time to private developers, it is money wasted on a much bigger scale.
    But the be fair, it didn't cost what is claimed in this thread. Those prices are way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    not quite £100k. Infact way less then that.
    Ah I can see now. It looks like you don't have much fibre? That would be a godsend for me there's fibre everywhere here which really drives up the costs.

    I really wanted to go Cisco for our new core switch but the costs were prohibitive. Ended up going for a HP5412ZL. Twice the slots, twice the ports, twice the PSUs for a third of the price of a Cisco 4507e.

    Guess we're to remain a HP shop! And there was me wanting to develop my cisco CLI skillz(tm). *sigh*

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