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    Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    Hi all

    Bit of a mystery going on here so let me explain... [grab a cup of tea/coffee/beer and concentrate on this one folks lol]

    We have a suite of computers that are located in a seperate room [music room] from the rest of the school.

    The network link is a strong wifi link [i have another thread long ago about this - the wifi works fine... moving on...] between the two buildings and things work through it as they should.

    Now, I've put a replication DC from the cur server room to the music block and after trying with two lan cards to create a seperate range for the machines up there [in order to get them to logon to that server only] but just couldnt manage to get it running.

    The next thing I thought was to just scrap that idea - as time is short - and even if they log onto the server in the cur room [...any way I can make those clients log onto the DC in the music room btw?...] I could set group policy to point folder redirection to the server in the music room i.e. for profiles etc, along with a home dir on this server [needed for them to save the huge music files - which wouldnt be very fun over wifi now ].

    Been trying this part of the week and with the assistance of my replacement, we just cant get it to work

    What our issue is is how to ONLY get a select group of computers i.e. music room computers to point to alterative set of folder redirection on a different server??

    We tried using a WMI filter and triple-checked the settings of it... makes no difference.

    The problem is that we need to tell the system via GP that when a user logs onto a computer in the music room to change the folder redirection to the server in the music room, but not when anywhere else...

    Anyone have any ideas? as we are running low on them

    cheers
    Nath

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    Re: Different group policy setup for a room of computers problem

    Couldnt you just map a drive for use in he "music room" and tel he pupils/staff to save to that instead ?

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    Re: Different group policy setup for a room of computers problem

    No.

    As they will end up having to use a profile over a wifi connection, and Cubase took at least 5 minutes to load lol

    As folder redirection is a user setting you must use loopback policy processing.
    @Geoff: Merging the topics wasnt working so just quoting what you said.

    Plus, thats already turned on.

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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    Plus, thats already turned on.
    So are you defining folder redirection settings in your machine policys then?

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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    Geoff... were you refering to the setting in GP:

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    Computer Config > System > Group Policy:
    
    User Group Policy loopback processing mode = Enabled
    Is this what you mean?

    I think a screenshot of the GP might be needed for you all here lol

    Basically, with that set, it makes no difference... using Group Policy Modelling tells me the same thing... that the winning GPO for Folder Redirection is the "Default Staff User" policy i have, not the GPO that I have placed in Computer OU for the Music Room [that is outside of the main computer OU's] that has the Folder Redirection set differently. That GPO is forced whereas all the other GPO's relating to Folder Redirection aren't.

    I so need this sorted... Any ideas?

    Nath.

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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers probl

    Your half way there. You need to set the folder redirection settings in a policy that is applied to the machine. Consider the following screen shot.
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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    Why does it have to be via GPO?

    Could it not be something done in the login script using the computer name as the defining factor?

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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers probl

    If you have a script handy i can do it with then great... I only use batch scripts mainly though, so if its anything else, i need idiots guide for the time being

    @geoff [and all]:

    have a look at these attachments and see if there is something I am missing here...

    [are security permissions needing to be changed at all?]

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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    You could do it just with a batch script if that is what you are most comfortable with - what about a folder that has addtional batch files for these computers then:-

    if exist \\folder\%computername%.bat \\folder\%computername%.bat

    the relevant file could then delete the normal mapped share and create the new one.

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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    Looks fine to me.

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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    [btw What I scrubbed out is the servername and a hidden share]

    Not sure what u mean limbo...

    Basically, as u can see from the above screenshots, here's what i need:

    - Application Data & Desktop to point to a share on the local DC
    - My Documents to point to a different share on the local DC
    - Start Menu to point to a set Start Menu on the local DC

    With the exception of the Start Menu, all of those have %username% in them so each user is seperate of course.

    The above settings in the GP look fine geoff, but as u can see, the default staff user GPO is "winning"... but i dont see why.

    If a script is the best option, dont i need to tell the above settings the new location? Isn't that some sort of registry method and can I use %username% in it?

    Cheers
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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    Hmm, posted earlier - never arrived.... but.

    I didnt bother with WMI stuff but did similar with my terminal servers.

    You will need
    Sellotape*
    Scissors*
    GPMC
    A couple of GPO's

    Loopback policy processing needs to be set on the machines with a Machine GPO set to Replace

    Part of this GPO on the OU with these machines needs a User section with the settings you want set.. set.

    When a User logs on to these Computers, they will get the User part of the GPO that is attached to the Computer OU since Loopback processing is set and there are User settings to be applied.

    hope this helps.

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    *P.S you don't really need these.

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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    Sellotape*
    Scissors*
    lol

    Look at my screen shots... this is what I've got set.

    But the Group Policy Modeling tests paint a different picture... i.e.... a picture that says that it doesnt work lol

    Can we conclude that the Modellng system is flawed when it comes to certain things i wonder? :S

    I shall try it on the actual machine in a bit.

    Cheers
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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    Indeed, GPMC Modelling will not correctly model the RSOP for loop back policies. This is why I say they are evil. :P

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    Re: Different group policy setup for room of computers problem!

    tarquel: I tried this out for desktop folder redirection for someone else.

    This thread http://www.edugeek.net/index.php?nam...ewtopic&t=9466 has the details it was regarding a teacher and getting a different desktop depending on where they logged on.

    I tested this in my virtual domain and it worked perfectly. I presume it would work for redirecting the other folders too.

    Ben



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