+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 18
Windows Thread, Restrict staff from closing outlook in Technical; Morning all, I have been asked by a member of our school's SLT to restrict staff from closing their outlook ...
  1. #1
    Edwardjr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    58
    Thank Post
    13
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0

    Restrict staff from closing outlook

    Morning all,

    I have been asked by a member of our school's SLT to restrict staff from closing their outlook when they are logged on - staff are only to minimise outlook.

    Is this possible within XP & 7? Do you folks think this is abit big brother?


    Much appreciated.

  2. #2

    vikpaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Saudi Arabia
    Posts
    5,970
    Thank Post
    673
    Thanked 1,383 Times in 1,145 Posts
    Rep Power
    350
    It is rather big brother, i suppose you could put a script / batch file on PCs to run every few minutes and open Outlook. This however would go awry if it tried to open two instances and ended up having a fit, as it is possible for it to get messed up. So you'd need something a little more elegant that checked for an already running process of outlook.exe first.

    Is communication really that big of a problem? If it's minimised they can still log off and reboot, and claim they didn't have time to read their mails.

  3. #3
    Edwardjr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    58
    Thank Post
    13
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0
    Yea, it's my thoughts extactly.

    Apparently there are quite a few members of staff not checking their emails frequently enough...

    The options presented to me are;

    Force outlook to stay open but can only be minimised or research a suitable instant messenger.

    Thanks for the reply!

  4. #4


    tom_newton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    4,475
    Thank Post
    866
    Thanked 849 Times in 671 Posts
    Rep Power
    196
    Monitor the outlook process and come up with a "top 10 logged in without outlook" users each week, and then they can get a ticking off for being in the naughty email club. Should teach people soon enough to keep it open and doesn't rely on too much of a nasty kludge?

  5. #5

    elsiegee40's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    11,076
    Thank Post
    1,792
    Thanked 2,188 Times in 1,619 Posts
    Rep Power
    774
    Move to Microsoft's free Live@edu and you get Windows Live Messenger as part of the package along with the other cloud based stuff: email, document storage, calendars...

  6. #6

    vikpaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Saudi Arabia
    Posts
    5,970
    Thank Post
    673
    Thanked 1,383 Times in 1,145 Posts
    Rep Power
    350
    I think you need to explain to the SLT that what they are asking isn't the solution to the problem. The problem is the staff, not the computer system.

    They need to be told, that they must check their emails, at least once per lesson, it doesn't take long to cast an eye over the inbox at the end of every lesson. Stop paper messages, and then if they miss something important they get in trouble.

    If the inbox is full of rubbish, then that's a separate issue to be dealt with. Here we have a policy that all Whole School emails are approved by a Head Teacher to stop the random spamming.

    I can't see messenger as an effective solution unless it's a physical one, i.e. a Y7 kid wearing his postman pat uniform

    If the right services are enabled you can net send a popup to the screen, i've even seen a decent app that gives you a nice interface for this. It will just interrupt the lesson though.

    I don't understand why they are actually closing Outlook, most people keep too many things open, i suspect they are just using it as an excuse to ignore email.

    Perhaps you can teach the right people to ask for read receipts and see when people are actually reading them, though you'd have to go in with each user and tell them to automatically respond to the messages, that or force it by GPO.
    Last edited by vikpaw; 12th March 2011 at 07:54 PM. Reason: typo

  7. Thanks to vikpaw from:

    Edwardjr (12th March 2011)

  8. #7
    Edwardjr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    58
    Thank Post
    13
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by vikpaw View Post
    I think you need to explain to the SLT that what they are asking isn't the solution to the problem. The problem is the staff, not the computer system.

    They need to be told, that they must check their emails, at least once per lesson, it doesn't take long to cast an eye over the inbox at the end of every lesson. Stop paper messages, and then if they miss something important they get in trouble.

    If the inbox is full of rubbish, then that's a separate issue to be dealt with. Here we have a policy that all Whole School emails are approved by a Head Teacher to stop the random spamming.

    I can't see messenger as an effective solution unless it's a physical one, i.e. a Y7 kid wearing his postman pat uniform

    If the right services are enabled you can net send a popup to the screen, i've even seen a decent app that gives you a nice interface for this. It will just interrupt the lesson though.

    I don't understand why they are actually closing Outlook, most people keep too many things open, i suspect they are just using it as an excuse to ignore email.

    Perhaps you can teacher the right people to ask for read receipts and see when people are actually reading them, though you'd have to go in with each user and tell them to automatically respond to the messages, that or force it by GPO.

    Hit the nail on the head there. I don't mind setting outlook to open at logon but configuring it such a way that a member of staff cannot close it will be a tad excessive, too big brother.

    Read receipts are a good idea however I've seen quite a few staff blindly click on / close pop ups and alert boxes - especially when I'm using AB Tutor control and send the teacher who i'm helping a message, they will just close the box without reading... frustrating much...?

    I think I'll go back to SLT with this in mind, this isn't just something a quick IT fix will solve.

    Thanks for all your replies.

  9. #8

    witch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Dorset
    Posts
    11,281
    Thank Post
    1,376
    Thanked 2,379 Times in 1,675 Posts
    Rep Power
    703
    Read Receipts will give SLT the ammo as they will know who hasnt read the emails.
    Otherwise, you could time a pop-up so it appears at the beginning of a lesson - and will stay until they cancel it - can you make it non-movable so they cant just put it out of the way. That way you will know that they have read the reminder - whether or not they act on it

  10. #9

    vikpaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Saudi Arabia
    Posts
    5,970
    Thank Post
    673
    Thanked 1,383 Times in 1,145 Posts
    Rep Power
    350
    If you're got exchange, and possibly just with the outlook client, you can set it to remember your choice when asked about sending read receipts. Now if you can force that by policy, then they wont get the pop up anymore. Failing that you have to do it for them once and tick the box.

    If they're anything like the users here they wont read the message like you said, so wont have made a choice either way. Just like the bulk of staff here who still have the IE8 setup page as their homepage, as they never go through the basic setup wizard not even to just accept default settings! Argh.

  11. #10

    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    London
    Posts
    3,156
    Thank Post
    116
    Thanked 529 Times in 452 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    124
    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    Read Receipts will give SLT the ammo as they will know who hasnt read the emails.
    They annoy me because they're used by some people on every message, not just ones which matter, so as a matter of principle I always click the "No" button when asked if I want to send a read receipt!

    Ultimately, this is a people issue - I can't imagine that the bulk of staff are regularly not getting messages because they close Outlook while they're logged on - so individuals need to be dealt with.

    Of course, if the problem is that management are assuming that any email will be read within 15 minutes of it being sent (maybe reasonable for office based staff; not sensible for others!) and think that the failure to read is because Outlook is closed then they need to change the way they work!

  12. #11

    SYNACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    11,172
    Thank Post
    868
    Thanked 2,699 Times in 2,288 Posts
    Blog Entries
    11
    Rep Power
    772
    Solution 2: if they want always on access to the staff wherever and whenever they should be providing them all smartphones, data plans and connecting them to exchange. Knock up a proposal for (number of staff)*(Windows Phone 7 device + Data contract) and add a little bit on the end about reasonable expectations of staff.

  13. #12

    glennda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Sussex
    Posts
    7,808
    Thank Post
    272
    Thanked 1,135 Times in 1,031 Posts
    Rep Power
    349
    One thing you have to ensure you do is disable the outlook automatic pop-up with a summary of emails if you are going to make them constantly have outlook open and confidential emails are sent around. We had a problem here with a member of staff having outlook open and the summary and subject of an email popped up and they accidentally clicked on it on the iwb and then displayed a confidential email to the whole class on the Interactive whiteboard. just leave the email icon in the system tray.

  14. #13

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    1
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0
    I am also having an issue with staff closing out look. On the bright side it looks like we will be able to lay some of them off. I can only hope that this will happen. They are doing their job when they are closing out look.

    If their is a registry hack, or other means to do this that would be great and would solve alot of issues for the staff who do not seem able to comprehend their job or follow instructions.

  15. #14

    glennda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Sussex
    Posts
    7,808
    Thank Post
    272
    Thanked 1,135 Times in 1,031 Posts
    Rep Power
    349
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogmodon View Post
    I am also having an issue with staff closing out look. On the bright side it looks like we will be able to lay some of them off. I can only hope that this will happen. They are doing their job when they are closing out look.

    If their is a registry hack, or other means to do this that would be great and would solve alot of issues for the staff who do not seem able to comprehend their job or follow instructions.
    There is never a bright side with laying people off!

    But the best bet would be a script which runs to check if it is open and if not then open it.

  16. #15

    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    198
    Thank Post
    9
    Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts
    Rep Power
    21
    This is a failure of management to manage the staff it's not an IT support issue

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 8
    Last Post: 8th June 2009, 10:32 AM
  2. application closing
    By Robertf in forum Windows
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 14th February 2009, 12:45 PM
  3. Restrict a network workstation to just staff
    By microcosm in forum Network and Classroom Management
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 28th June 2008, 05:44 AM
  4. Restrict where staff can install from
    By daverage in forum Wireless Networks
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 24th November 2005, 08:33 AM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •