+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 21
Windows Thread, internal spamming of exchange in Technical; we run exchange. The kids have to have email accounts for some reason. All they use it for is spamming ...
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Hereford
    Posts
    213
    Thank Post
    5
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
    Rep Power
    15

    internal spamming of exchange

    we run exchange. The kids have to have email accounts for some reason.
    All they use it for is spamming each other. some times bullying.

    Is there any way that we can stop them from emailing each other internally?

    All they need is to send and recieve external emails.

    we run exchg 2000

  2. #2
    timbo343's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Leeds/York area, North Yorkshire
    Posts
    2,772
    Thank Post
    251
    Thanked 220 Times in 168 Posts
    Rep Power
    87

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    i dont know of one, but you could always say to the kids that if any form of spamming or bullying is going on then we will remove your email account from you!!!
    Just out of interest, and totally off the point, how much space do you give kids and staff for their mailboxes?

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Hereford
    Posts
    213
    Thank Post
    5
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
    Rep Power
    15

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by timbo343
    i dont know of one, but you could always say to the kids that if any form of spamming or bullying is going on then we will remove your email account from you!!!
    Just out of interest, and totally off the point, how much space do you give kids and staff for their mailboxes?
    we dont set a limit. we monitor the space being used. We never get an issue with space.

    we cant monitor every email that they send to each other.

  4. #4
    Busybub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    384
    Thank Post
    44
    Thanked 39 Times in 37 Posts
    Rep Power
    21

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    In the property sheet of the user account there is an Exchange tab that gives you another option called delivery restrictions.

    You can specify "From everybody except"...

    Problem is that you would be there for ages putting in the relevant entries.

    If somebody knows a better way, I'm all ears as I have a similar problem.

    *grrrrrr*

  5. #5
    Busybub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    384
    Thank Post
    44
    Thanked 39 Times in 37 Posts
    Rep Power
    21

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    [quote="goodhead"]
    Quote Originally Posted by timbo343
    we cant monitor every email that they send to each other.
    I've been thinking that this might be the way to go, if somebody knows of such a solution???

  6. #6
    timbo343's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Leeds/York area, North Yorkshire
    Posts
    2,772
    Thank Post
    251
    Thanked 220 Times in 168 Posts
    Rep Power
    87

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    oh ok, its just that we have got our mailboxes for staff.. kids dont have an email account, they use hotmail, but anyway, we have the sizes set to 15 mb and see how it goes from there. Its a lot easier to manage too, as its upto the user to delete emails and keep the storage down to a minimum.
    But going back to your original question... i dont know... Even if you did try to remove sending mail internally, you will still get kids probably sending the email so it goes outside then back in. IF you see what i mean.

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Hereford
    Posts
    213
    Thank Post
    5
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
    Rep Power
    15

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by timbo343
    oh ok, its just that we have got our mailboxes for staff.. kids dont have an email account, they use hotmail, but anyway, we have the sizes set to 15 mb and see how it goes from there. Its a lot easier to manage too, as its upto the user to delete emails and keep the storage down to a minimum.
    But going back to your original question... i dont know... Even if you did try to remove sending mail internally, you will still get kids probably sending the email so it goes outside then back in. IF you see what i mean.
    your right, hadn't thought of that.

    What can happen is, a kid gets nasty email from a another kid. he then tells he parents. the parents complain to the school.
    Then falls on us to sort it out. In this case there maybe no good solution. That doesn't go well with the parent of the bullied kid.

  8. #8
    timbo343's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Leeds/York area, North Yorkshire
    Posts
    2,772
    Thank Post
    251
    Thanked 220 Times in 168 Posts
    Rep Power
    87

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    well then, there are 2 options i think,
    1.remove the email address of the bully and disable them from the network.
    2. remove all kids email addresses, and then get them to use hotmail. Thats what we do and then its upto the kids to sort them selves out and if any bullying does go on then the parents can sort it out between them, as they are using an external source. Again, its down to the teacher to be monitoring what the kids are looking/typing on hotmail, i know of a few occasions where i have looked what kids are doing via lan view and some of the messages they send to each other... and sometimes you have trouble reading it as it is in text language (now i sound like a grump.)
    Also am supprised that the kids havent been emailing the teachers, that is what ours would do. We had a situation where a teacher let out his email to kids and they had a field day with threats but that was from a hotmail address, so a letter went home to the likey candidates.

  9. #9


    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    8,202
    Thank Post
    442
    Thanked 1,032 Times in 812 Posts
    Rep Power
    338

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    We use Zimbra which filters spam for internal and external mail, we set up a word blacklist that prevents bullying by identifying keywords. The filter blocks the bad mail from being sent and sends it directly to administrators who informs head of year -usually resulting from a temporary account suspension.

  10. #10

    Gatt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    6,541
    Thank Post
    831
    Thanked 610 Times in 413 Posts
    Rep Power
    432

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    We run exchange 2003 for internal use only for the kids, but get the same problems
    We have full mailbox journalling on so we can see every email that they send. but still they send crap - and 99% of it is in that bloody TXT speak :twisted: which makes it almost impossible to understand whats being said without an interpreter..

    Again the problems arrise when we get a pupil who is spamming or bullying through the system

    The only 2 solutions we have are:

    Disable their Mailbox (ie delete there email address)
    or
    Disable the email system for everyone

    I'm very keen to try and find a sort of "Sin Bin" add-on that we can use to temporarily disable their email without deleting them.

  11. #11

    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    80
    Thank Post
    1
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    Filtering email for exchange would require software that examined the users mailboxes directly. Of course, if you have external filtering in place, and all you have to worry about is abuse internally, how about putting in place something like Policy Central from Forensic Software? It would cost about the same as internal mail filtering anyhow.

    It sits on the graphics card and takes screen captures. That way you get the proof and it monitors the whole screen, not just email.

    It's only as good as the behaviour policy and how it is enforced of course, but it places the descision back where it belongs, with the teachers.

    Forensic Software

  12. #12
    tscnmuk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Lincolnshire
    Posts
    216
    Thank Post
    5
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt
    We run exchange 2003 for internal use only for the kids, but get the same problems
    We have full mailbox journalling on so we can see every email that they send. but still they send crap - and 99% of it is in that bloody TXT speak :twisted: which makes it almost impossible to understand whats being said without an interpreter..

    Again the problems arrise when we get a pupil who is spamming or bullying through the system

    The only 2 solutions we have are:

    Disable their Mailbox (ie delete there email address)
    or
    Disable the email system for everyone

    I'm very keen to try and find a sort of "Sin Bin" add-on that we can use to temporarily disable their email without deleting them.
    A type of "Sin Bin" system that we have used is to remove the ""self" rights on the user's mailbox. Go into the User using Active Directory on the Exchange Server itself. On the "Exchange Advanced" tab under mailbox rights, is a "self" option. If you just set that to deny all, the kid won't be able to access the mailbox at all, let alone send anymore messages.

  13. #13
    tscnmuk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Lincolnshire
    Posts
    216
    Thank Post
    5
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    As an add-on thought to my previous statement. When removing a students rights from their mailbox, I always found it benifical to change the user description to something that would alert me to the fact that it had been done. Lots of times scratching head why a user couldn't access their mailbox.

  14. #14

    john's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    London
    Posts
    10,439
    Thank Post
    1,468
    Thanked 1,035 Times in 908 Posts
    Rep Power
    299

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by timbo343
    2. remove all kids email addresses, and then get them to use hotmail. Thats what we do and then its upto the kids to sort them selves out and if any bullying does go on then the parents can sort it out between them, as they are using an external source.
    Sort of OT here, but I see your from North Yorks, do you use the new Bull ISP? If so your plan here will fall flat on its face in a month's time when access to Hotmail, Yahoo, Orange and other free webmail providers is blocked off for your own protection and safety.

  15. #15
    timbo343's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Leeds/York area, North Yorkshire
    Posts
    2,772
    Thank Post
    251
    Thanked 220 Times in 168 Posts
    Rep Power
    87

    Re: internal spamming of exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by john
    Quote Originally Posted by timbo343
    2. remove all kids email addresses, and then get them to use hotmail. Thats what we do and then its upto the kids to sort them selves out and if any bullying does go on then the parents can sort it out between them, as they are using an external source.
    Sort of OT here, but I see your from North Yorks, do you use the new Bull ISP? If so your plan here will fall flat on its face in a month's time when access to Hotmail, Yahoo, Orange and other free webmail providers is blocked off for your own protection and safety.
    Nah we are not on the LEA ISP, bull, we can do our own filtering and stable internet for half the price of what county charge, and set our own filter policies up so kids can hardly access anything....

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Exchange 2003 or 2007 for internal email only.
    By tosca925 in forum Windows
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 8th October 2007, 12:59 PM
  2. Internal messaging
    By chrbb in forum Wireless Networks
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 22nd May 2007, 06:06 PM
  3. Internal Mail on Exchange Server
    By johnkay21 in forum Windows
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 15th May 2007, 07:20 PM
  4. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 3rd May 2007, 02:29 PM
  5. Internal/External Email with ISA and Exchange 2000
    By Ueline in forum Wireless Networks
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 7th December 2005, 11:00 AM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •