Outlook Web Access trial

[amacken]

Having finally convinced the school they need Outlook and Exchange, and do away with the old clunky webmail system (for staff, not students), the next stepping stone is to let them have a look at OWA. I was shocked at the price of this (for us it would be 2,500 under the current schools agreement, or 9,000 outright purchase).

Does anyone know if there is an OWA trial that can be downloaded (i've had a look on the MS site and can't find anything), or does anybody use something similar (and cheaper?)

Thanks

[john]

Woha! Those prices are massive, how many users are you going to have! Those prices look like the business prices rather than education ones!

As for a trial, you can download an evaluation / test setup for exchange server 2007 which I think runs on a virtual machine so you could set that up and trial that.

[amacken]

Woha! Those prices are massive, how many users are you going to have! Those prices look like the business prices rather than education ones!

As for a trial, you can download an evaluation / test setup for exchange server 2007 which I think runs on a virtual machine so you could set that up and trial that.

Ref the prices, I double checked (Ramesys) and was told that was the price (for up to 100 users, don't want it for the students), which seems huge....I might ring someone else tomorrow and ask them as well.

I've already managed to buy Exchange enterprise as part of our select agreement, but I was under the impression that OWA is a completely separate module ?

[Geoff]

No, OWA is part of Exchange. The high prices are probably because of the CALs. It really sounds like Ramesys have added something up wrong somewhere.

[PiqueABoo]

if there is an OWA trial that can be downloaded

MS have a trial Exchange 2007 Virtual PC image you can download somewhere.. don't know, but I assume that has OWA already configured.

[amacken]

Hmm, now i'm really confuzzled, but that's not difficult 8O

According to Ramesys, there is no need to purchase CALs as that is part of our schools agreement, but OWA is an extra module which must be purchased. Any MS licensing experts on here ? MS Licensing confuses the beejeezus out of me, and going by some of the posts on here it looks like i'm not the only ne :?

[Ric_]

If you have a Schools Agreement, your Exchange CALs are included in the cost per workstation. If you use a Select agreement you will need to buy device CALs - one for each machine. This will mean that you are legal for internal access.

For external access you will need some kind of Exchange External Connector License IIRC. Check with Ramesys what EXACTLY you have been quoted for.

[DMcCoy]

Edit - MS Licensing - The mind boggles

http://www.microsoft.com/education/serveraccess.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...connector.mspx

[DMcCoy]

Anyone want to guess what this means?

http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/7/1/771d8923-9b5e-40ee-86d9-213e0f41b2e8/AcademicGrantLetter(ExternalConnector)(NA)(ENG)(Ju l2006)CR.doc

[john]

Anyone want to guess what this means?

http//download.microsoft.com/download/7/7/1/771d8923-9b5e-40ee-86d9-213e0f41b2e8/AcademicGrantLetter(ExternalConnector)(NA)(ENG)(Ju l2006)CR.doc

That means basically if you get CALs for all your machine then you get FREE the complete external connector licence, or thats the way I read it.

[amacken]

Hmm....interesting links there. It seems to suggest that we get access for free if1. We are an educational establishment, and 2. We are in school/campus agreement.....and I can answer yes to both.

I'll post to Ramesys as well to get their take

[nathanlivesey]

Hey everyone look at this website Live @ edu :: The Future of Student Collaboration is Here I am looking at putting it in for the students in the coming months

[jsnetman]

Cost us about £1400, 300/400 for the purchase of exchange server software and 1000 cals. We bought from ramesys.

[maniac]

Have you actually tried putting your server URL in a browser to see if OWA is installed, as AFAIK it is by default. Just bung in http://yourexchangeserver/exchange into a browser inside the school network and see what happens.

And as far as I know if you are on a schools agreement the license to use exchange web access is included in the exchange license purchased through this agreement, at least that's what Pugh computers told me when I enquired.

Tell you what, it would be a good idea to collate accurate information on licensing and what each type of agreement entitles you to do, when you may need to buy additional licenses etc. somewhere on this website, as it's something which a lot of people find confusing, and it's really difficult to find the right information sometimes.

Mike.

[Saruk31]

MS licensing is difficult to understand at the best of times. As far as I understand it and what I have dine in my past two Schools is this.

Schools agreement.
Addin the Exchange server enterprise option.
Install Exchange (2007 in our case) and OWA

Internally connect to your exchnage server:
://yourexchangeserver/exchange or ://yourexchangeserver/owa

Have never purchase an external connector nor ever been told I had to and have used Ramesys and Viglen in the past as suppliers.

Also normally use ISA for external access to Exchange.