Windows Thread, Extending IP Range in Technical; I sure this has been discussed before.. but..
I nned to extend my range..
192.168.0.1 192.168.3.254
255.255.255.252
Is my configuration.. ...
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14th November 2006, 02:16 AM #1 Extending IP Range
I sure this has been discussed before.. but..
I nned to extend my range..
192.168.0.1 192.168.3.254
255.255.255.252
Is my configuration.. we only have 18% free of the DHCP scope and I am getting 90 more PC's soon
As you know we have fixed IP's for Servers, Printers, WAPs and some other stuff...
Is there any way to simply extend this range :-)
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14th November 2006, 09:33 AM #2 Re: Extending IP Range
Are you sure that subnet mask is correct ? do you mean 255.255.252.0?
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14th November 2006, 10:20 AM #3 Re: Extending IP Range
If not then you definatelt need more ip addresses 
Ben
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14th November 2006, 11:43 AM #4 Re: Extending IP Range
Should be easy enough to just change the scope on your DHCP excluding the addresses used statically and just change the subnet mask to 255.255.248.0 ? 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.7.254 ?
Wes
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15th November 2006, 01:10 AM #5 Re: Extending IP Range

Originally Posted by
ChrisH Are you sure that subnet mask is correct ? do you mean 255.255.252.0?
yes... sorry that should be 255.255.252.0

Originally Posted by
wesleyw Should be easy enough to just change the scope on your DHCP excluding the addresses used statically and just change the subnet mask to 255.255.248.0 ? 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.7.254 ?
Would I not have to change the static SN Masks to .248 on the servers, Printers and WAPS manualy ? as this is what I am trying to avoid :-)
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15th November 2006, 09:28 AM #6 Re: Extending IP Range
Unfotunately for you to achieve this you will have to change any statically configured devices manually.
Ben
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16th November 2006, 02:25 PM #7
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I agree with Plexer... you;d have to do it, otherwise you'll get clients not being able to talk to each other...
one way around this problem in the future is to set your static systems on to DHCP and set reservations for them using their MAC address. You can then change your DHCP settings to show the new Subnet mask, and it will affect all your systems. It's a pain in the backside if you have loads of static clients, but worth it later... 
Regards,
Stese
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17th November 2006, 02:08 PM #8
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would you need to change the static devices though?
On a properly configured network, if you try to talk to any device on a different subnet your packets are sent via the default gateway
so the "old" (static) devices will just send anything for the "new" (extended dhcp) devices via the default gateway. Everything can still talk to everything else, provided your default gateway is configured correctly.
or is friday afternoon addling my mind (which it must be - that took too attempts to type!)?
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17th November 2006, 02:12 PM #9 Re: Extending IP Range
no because the netmasks are different. So you get:
Old device -> gateway -> New device
Which works, but then the new device tries to reply:
New device -> old device
old device throws packets away because they didn't come from the gateway
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17th November 2006, 05:15 PM #10 Re: Extending IP Range

Originally Posted by
Stese I agree with Plexer... you;d have to do it, otherwise you'll get clients not being able to talk to each other...
one way around this problem in the future is to set your static systems on to DHCP and set reservations for them using their MAC address. You can then change your DHCP settings to show the new Subnet mask, and it will affect all your systems. It's a pain in the backside if you have loads of static clients, but worth it later...
Regards,
Stese
*sigh*.... I thought so..... so now how do I find all the fixed IP's :-(
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17th November 2006, 05:18 PM #11 Re: Extending IP Range

Originally Posted by
Stese I agree with Plexer... you;d have to do it, otherwise you'll get clients not being able to talk to each other...
one way around this problem in the future is to set your static systems on to DHCP and set reservations for them using their MAC address. You can then change your DHCP settings to show the new Subnet mask, and it will affect all your systems. It's a pain in the backside if you have loads of static clients, but worth it later...
Regards,
Stese
*sigh*.... I thought so..... so now how do I find all the fixed IP's :-(
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17th November 2006, 05:51 PM #12 Re: Extending IP Range
You look them up in your spreadsheet/system to see what they are or you just start at the first excluded ip and try to telnet/ssh/web browse to them to change them.
Ben
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17th November 2006, 05:59 PM #13
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I think the WAPs will be the only really problem if you have a big wifi coverage. Other network appliances could be left alone intially as they will only be contected by servers.
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