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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    Oh yes, in the squid config I forgot to mention you'll also need to configure 'visible_hostname' and the httpd_accel_* rules.

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    Quote Originally Posted by tarquel
    I believe theres a way of filtering what you can upload with one of those [Browse] buttons and with php etc, tho dont ask me what it is ...yet lol

    You could always have a filtering batch script on your file server to remove mp3, exe's, etc. each night lol
    As with email attachments tho' couldn't you just re-name any file to a .txt extension for example. Most kids wouldn't be a problem but a few would know immediately and you know how that stuff spreads :?

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    Use content filtering rather than relying on mime types then.

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    hi
    all pupils use a program called my learning space which they can save work
    pictures.etc from home and then bring it into school and download it on to there home drive
    the bad thing about this is that it comes with its own message system but we have had the message system disabled
    my learning space

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    Three word……. Windows Terminal Server.

    Ok I know you need to buy TS Cals @ £10.50 each, but the end result is a secure, familiar and consistent environment that will provide access to all resources and documents available on the school LAN and more importantly most of the applications staff and students use in school.

    GPO’s can be used to lock the TS down as you would any workstation on the LAN and internet access via the TS can either be switch off or pushed through the existing filtering server.

    You only need to open one port and provide a preconfigured RDP connection file for staff and student’s.

    Q. Why are RM moving away from WebDAV to a terminal server based solution for remote access?

    A. Extending teaching and learning opportunities beyond the physical boundaries of the school.

    Windows Terminal services (and Citrix) provides the ideal platform to achieve this.

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    Quote Originally Posted by russdev
    if they have home access can bypass our filtering and upload mp3,exe's etc...
    True, they can upload them but they can't do anything with the files after that, as they will return to school and find the GPOs preventing them from running the EXE, so no harm no foul.

    Also, unless you control attachments on your emails, block all web-based email sites and ban USB pen drives, then your students have been bypassing your filters for years...

    We use RM Easylink too, and while it's a bit clumsy it does what we need - students can send work to and fro, and access homework sheets if they want. It's not perfect, but it is low cost :-)

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    Three word……. Windows Terminal Server.

    Ok I know you need to buy TS Cals @ £10.50 each,
    you really don't want home computers eating up your TS Cals - get an external TS connector license for about £1400 and have a dedicated external access server.

    For a more web based and cost effective access check http://www.alfresco.com/ for webdav/cifs/ftp and document conversion and versioning CMS

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    we use this http://www.netgear.com/Products/VPNa...rs/SSL312.aspx for staff access, works fine, very secure, connects to AD, etc. only 200 odd squid

    Only allows 25 concurrent connections though, so probably no good for student access. I've had no gripes though

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd
    you really don't want home computers eating up your TS Cals - get an external TS connector license for about £1400 and have a dedicated external access server.
    AFAIK, an external connector license is only required if you intend to offer remote access for external users who are not employed or affiliated to your organisation.

    “An external user is a person who is not an employee, or similar personnel of the company or its affiliates, and is not someone to whom you provide hosted services using the server software.”

    Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...connector.mspx

    You would therefore still require TS Cals to allow staff and students to connect remotely to a terminal server.

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    I run a piece of free software called SSL explorer here, which I've setup to allow access to students and staff home areas, and read only access to public areas. There's also a web VPN built into this which allows selected staff to connect to and use their machine as if they were in school. It works well, and is very easy to use, ad best of all it's free!

    It uses the active directory database for user authentication, so nice and simple, and there's lots of customisations you can make from the admin console, so you can pretty much get it to do what you like. You can see the front login page at https://www.nbc.medway.sch.uk:49302

    Cheers,

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    I mentioned the RM Client Connect solution earlier and the quote below from their own website justifies why schools are moving away from RM

    Thin Client Requirements -

    An additional Community Connect 3 Member Terminal Server to support approximately 30 thin client stations.
    One RM Client Connect software pack is required per network.
    Each thin client station requires an RM Client Connect CAL (or Community Connect CAL - see below).
    Each thin client station will require a Microsoft Terminal Services CAL.
    Each Server will require a Community Connect 3™ Terminal Member Server Licence.
    On site Member Server commissioning service is required.
    Additional Member Terminal Server Support Contract per server.
    Source: http://www.rm.com/Secondary/Products...?cref=PD786541

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    typical microsoft licensing confusion again

    Note: Microsoft has extended the coverage of External Connector Licenses for certain CAL options under the School Agreement. They now include prospective students, alumni, and students and faculty of collaborating institutions. Additionally, a CAL is no longer required for the parent(s) or legal guardian(s) of licensed student users. Please see the following bulletins for further details:
    http://www.microsoft.com/emea/education/howtobuy.mspx

    the letter referenced doesn't explicitely say TS CALS, but I'm definately under the impression it's ok for schools to allow staff/students access to TS external connector license - our license man at Ramesys confirtmed this. I would be interested if you have any other info because we wouldn't be able to justify 1800 users (esp as we're using device cals for our machines internally) and give them a TS cal each !!!

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    I recently contacted a licensing man at Ramesys and he told me that I needed to buy a £1400 external connector licence as well as the TS Cals to allow staff and students to access a TS remotely. Which is complete nonsense and I would not be too confident that what Ramesys have told you is correct.

    Obviously this is a little worrying, because I have just placed and order for 650 TS Cals for one of my clients at a cost of £6.5k and if I could have got away with a £1400 external connector license I would be sitting on a beach in the Caribbean right now.

    I am sure I am right on this one, but I will investigate the documentation to support this.

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    Q. If a student accesses a school's network, is the student considered an external user?

    Yes, and so the student can be covered under an External Connector licence.
    source: http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windowss...licensing.mspx

    Oh dear..... I think I still have time to cancel that order! ops:

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    Re: Accessing work from home.

    There's bound to be a hefty price to pay Mr. Gates I would guess somewhere along the line.

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