Default Domain policy disables Windows Firewall (we are behind Cisco PIX and MS ISA at LA level plus ISA in the local LAN). The System/Logon/Wait for network is also enabled in Default Domain Policy.
This only seems to delay the presentation of the CRTL+ALT+DEL screen. Ideally what I need is for the network to be initialised before the system attempts to run ANY system Group Policies but with this being a laptop, I don't want it to be sat waiting for a network connection when it is intended to be running without one.

Just to clarify the issue. When Windows boots you see a series of splash screens, 'Preparing Network Connections', 'Applying Computer settings' etc, one of these should be 'Applying Software Installation Settings...' which then changes to 'Installing Managed Software..... '. I am not seeing the 'Applying Software Installation Settings...' message at all. It is not that windows is trying to run the install and failing, it just isn't trying it at all. All Managed Software applications are applied to the 'Computer' settings in the GPO, not to the user. Application Log errors show that the laptop cannot connect to the domain controller during startup and aborts running Group Policies. 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I have now resolved this (I think/hope) by installing an older NIC driver.<br /> To help anyone who may be searching for this in the future, Windows update had installed Realtek Driver 5.719.325.2009, I have now installed Driver Version 5.505.1004.2002 and everything now seems to be working perfectly. 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The System/Logon/Wait for network is also enabled in Default Domain Policy.<br /> This only seems to delay the presentation of the CRTL+ALT+DEL screen. Ideally what I need is for the network to be initialised before the system attempts to run ANY system Group Policies</div> </div> </div> </div>The wait for network policy needs to be a local machine policy not domain policy for this fix to work, if the laptop is not picking up your managed software instalation, or part of it, it's most likley won't be picking the default domain policy, give it a try it's only one machine and take 2mins to set up. it sorted all my problems that I had with gpo software instalation, as for boot time to log on screen thats only a few seconds more and I doubt anyone would even see a change<img src="http://awscf.cdngeek.net/images/smilies/smile.png" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /><br /> <br /> good luck<img src="http://awscf.cdngeek.net/images/smilies/smile.png" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> we all need a bit of it sometimes, Bloody Windows<img src="http://awscf.cdngeek.net/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" class="inlineimg" /><!-- google_ad_section_end --> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> <div class="after_content"> <blockquote class="postcontent lastedited"> Last edited by ozzy; 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