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    Gremlins in my file system

    I have a kids folder which has another folder in that which has another folder in that. Are you following me yet? Anyway this particular folder wont allow access to it by anybody. Not the owner/creater, not the administrator of the domain, not the local administrator. You can't rename it, move it, delete it. When you go to properties, not all the tabs appear - you only get 'General', 'Customize', and 'NFS Sharing'. No security tab, so I can't take ownership of it.

    Under General, it tells me it is zero k and contains no files or folders.

    I even tried deleting / renameing it from the command prompt but no luck.

    Definately gremlins. Can anyone tell me how to sort it?

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    I had a similar thing happen the other day - deleting it directly at the server, without remoting to it worked.

    I don't have a clue why though.

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    I think this is something that comes up from time to time, as our 'charges' experiment with the file system.
    I had this problem when the full file name (drive:\path\file) exceeded the limit, which I think is 260 characters under ntfs. It is possible to create longer names, much longer if you dump a folder tree inside another one that is near the limit. But you can't then get at the lower folders again.
    The fix I found was to use Subst to assign a drive letter to a folder near the bottom of the tree (on the server) which then gave me a shorter path through which I could get at the folders underneath and delete them.

    subst /?
    Associates a path with a drive letter.

    SUBST [drive1: [drive2:]path]
    SUBST drive1: /D

    drive1: Specifies a virtual drive to which you want to assign a path.
    [drive2:]path Specifies a physical drive and path you want to assign to
    a virtual drive.
    /D Deletes a substituted (virtual) drive.

    Type SUBST with no parameters to display a list of current virtual drives.
    Hope this is helpful

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    Regarding not getting the Security tab. If you got to Tools - Folder Options - way down the bottom in a box to untick (or tick?) called enable simple file sharing - or something to that effect. Ticking (or unticking) that box should get your Security tab back. Saying that, I had one yesterday where it didn't!

    Andy

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    Thanks for swift reply

    Alan.d - tried from server. Exaclty the same problem / symptoms

    Ian.B - Tried that but it didn't work. The files names are not long at all.

    andy - it's not this, I can see the security tab on all other folders surrounding this one so it's not a folder options thing.

    I've just noticed a folder buried in one of the pupils other directories with the same name and the same problem. Something has gone wrong at some point here.

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    is it not one of these annoying ones, where they try and create as many folders within a folder as possible?

    I've had that, and windoze got it knickers in a twist!

    Have you tried altering the permission from the childs folder, not from the 1st rogue folder, and inheriting the permssions to the sub-folder?

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    Woody why not use SetACL. AJB recommended it a while back. This will allow you to assume ownership from the command line then it's just
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    RD /S /Q 
    Has it caused any problems with backup. Normally the backup service account is a member of Domain Admins group.

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkGeezer
    Woody why not use SetACL. AJB recommended it a while back. This will allow you to assume ownership from the command line then it's just
    Code:
    RD /S /Q 
    Has it caused any problems with backup. Normally the backup service account is a member of Domain Admins group.
    What would be the line for set acl?

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    Code:
     setACL -rec cont_obj -actn setowner -ownr n:administrators -ot file -on  
    SetACL is a 3rd party utility availible from sourceforge.net
    There's a readme with all the options in the zip file.

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    I've had similar problems happen when the file's short name got screwed up, and it seems to only happen in student directories for me as well. What are they doing, anyway?

    Try this:

    In command prompt, browse to the parent directory of the file or directory giving you the problem. Type dir /x. The x switch will show you the short name (e.g., vssdoc~1.doc). Then type del shortnameoffile.

    That should get rid of it.

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    I've fixed this previously by booting my Linux System Rescue CD and deleteing the problem file with that.

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    Thanks BradP - tried that and it just tells me access is denied.

    Here is the path on the server of the folder:

    d:\documents\year04\[studentname]\my documents\[x] my stuff [x]\[x] picz [x]

    I know the [x] make it look suspicious, but I'm not sure that is anything to do with it because right next to that folder is another one with the same type of filename and that's fine.

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    I've fixed this previously by booting my Linux System Rescue CD and deleteing the problem file with that.
    Thought you might have a Linux solution.

    So you think I should boot up my NAS server running Microsoft Windows 2003 Appliance edition with a Linux System rescue CD?

    Would that work?

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    Try this:

    Browse to the file in the command prompt.
    DIR /X
    REN stupidfileshortname test
    DEL test

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    Re: Gremlins in my file system

    Quote Originally Posted by BradP.
    Try this:

    Browse to the file in the command prompt.
    DIR /X
    REN stupidfileshortname test
    DEL test
    Access is denied :angryfire:

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