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Windows Thread, RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref) in Technical; Originally Posted by Dos_Box See. It is nice after all. (once the faffing has been done). Except for those odd ...
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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box
    See. It is nice after all. (once the faffing has been done).
    Except for those odd servers that all have the same GUID

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    They are just wrong. I'm wondering with thise if that is a factory setting to be modified later.

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    @Ric: How does you RIS build manage to build a PC in 5 minutes? The best I've ever seen is about 20 to 25 minutes for a vanilla XP install. Are you referrring to the time taken to copy the files down to the PC prior to the setup actually taking place?

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    Those of you who use a single RIS build (I tend not to refer to them as images, as people tend to think of Ghost images), how do you deal with the ever increasing number of drivers you must need and the length of the OEMPNPDRIVERSPATH .SIF setting? Do you (like OverWorked) maintain a set of SIF files, 1 per build, or has the length of the line (I believe 4096 chars is max) never been an issue?

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_
    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box
    See. It is nice after all. (once the faffing has been done).
    Except for those odd servers that all have the same GUID
    Yeah ... we just came acoss this with a bunch of RM workstations.

    How do others get around duplicate GUIDs?

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

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    See. It is nice after all. (once the faffing has been done).
    Except for those odd servers that all have the same GUID
    Yeah ... we just came acoss this with a bunch of RM workstations.

    How do others get around duplicate GUIDs?
    It's usually possible to obtain a utility from the manufacturer (done this with Viglen & Tulip, can't speak for RM). Basically there is a DMI setting which holds the UUID. There is obviously a standard for reading the UUID so I assume that there is also a standard way of setting it, but I know of no generic utility.

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    Another question for all you RISsters (not easy to say that!); Have you tried creating a build using Bashrat the sneaky's driver packs?

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    @ajbritton: It only took 5 minutes from starting the build to finish (approx.). To be fair, these machines were dangling off the same HP gigabit switch as the RIS server and both machines had decent Broadcom gigabit NICs. My build is also only a baselined version of XP SP2 with the Citrix client so it aint exactly huge!

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    @Ric: 5 minutes still seems like an incredibly fast time. My builds take about 5 minutes to copy files down to the PC which then reboots and goes through the normal XP setup sequence. The XP setup takes a good 15 to 20 minutes. This is for a basic install from an XP SP2 slipstreamed build! Where d'you think I could be going wrong?

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    @ajbritton. You are not using the scripts correctly. A properly configured .sif file will do all of the domain joining, and XP config for you, negating having to do it yourself.

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box
    @ajbritton. You are not using the scripts correctly. A properly configured .sif file will do all of the domain joining, and XP config for you, negating having to do it yourself.
    Can any of you RIS guys point us to some good RIS explanatory sites that'll lead RIS newbies through the stuff?

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box
    @ajbritton. You are not using the scripts correctly. A properly configured .sif file will do all of the domain joining, and XP config for you, negating having to do it yourself.
    Let me correct myself! When I say that 'my PCs go through the same setup sequence', I mean that the 'automatically' go through the setup sequence, adding themselves to the domain and so on. I was just trying to point out the timings of the various bits of the RIS installation. My PCs still take 15 to 20 minutes to build themselves, showing the same XP setup screens, but not asking me any questions. When the setup completes, the PCs reboot, pick up group policy settings, install assigned software, then do an auto-logon and use the RunOnceEx method to install any software included in the build (e.g. PowerDVD, Roxio or Nero).

    NB - I am NOT using RIPREP to create my builds. Could this be why they are slower???? :?

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    @AJ: You must just have slow machine :P (3GHz P4s with 512MB RAM on a full duplex gigabit connection straight to the switch where the server is and virtually no network traffic!)

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    Re: RIS - One build to rule them all? (sad Tolkien ref)

    @ajbritton. Use ripprep on a complete build. That way you know everything is set ok and will install as standard. It doesn't take much to update this image once completed.

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