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    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy View Post
    I use a lvm volume, stop services, snaphot, start services then rsync afterwards from the snapshot. Less downtime that way
    I didn't know enough about LVM at the time to implement it confidently so stuck with the simple option for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy View Post
    Dumping tomcat was one of the best things about 5.0, although I've not made it to 5.0.11 yet to fix my html mails.
    Definitely. Tomcat was the root of a lot of Zimbra's problems pre-5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy View Post
    I'm currently looking to sort something out for student mail, I'll probably use a seperate domain name or sub domain and zimbra when I finally find out what the users want (I've trying several times in the past but never got anywhere so it's just been ignored).
    If you do, would you make the documentation publicly available? I've used Zimbra in the past and would like to try and configure a demo setup with word filtering, backup and full resiliance, but don't know how much time I'll need.

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    Thanks for all the help guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    If you do, would you make the documentation publicly available? I've used Zimbra in the past and would like to try and configure a demo setup with word filtering, backup and full resiliance, but don't know how much time I'll need.
    There is some documentation for zimbra account creation and content filtering, it's quite old now but should be valid. I've also seen an LVM snapshot howto somewhere.

    Zimbra autocreate accounts with Active Directory or LDAP
    Zimbra content filter

    We've been using zimbra for student mail for a couple of years now, it has been a breath of fresh air over exchange. Upgrades have been simple, we've gone through version 4 to current without a hiccup. I've found it easier and more reliable than exchange, with a good (free) support network.

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    - Integration with sharepoint
    - Local control (you can send emails even when the internet is down)
    - One click backup with backupexec
    - Ability to set limits to different accounts, also far more storage available if you want
    - AD integration
    - Most popular email server software in the world by far, massive support network and knowledge base
    - OWA is world class mail front end, perfect for schools as its so locked down.
    - Powershell making things a lot quiker to do bulk operations

    How anyone can think RM easymail is even close to exchange is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webman View Post
    All I'm trying to say is that if a school is looking to replace or implement email, exchange isn't the only option. As was highlighted by the HeliOS blog, many people are unaware there is life outside of Microsoft.
    that may well be what you meant, but it wasn't what you said....


    Many people are unaware there is life without microsoft, I agree - but most of them aren't reading this forum.

    You make exchange out to be the root of all evils, whereas the first time I used it I was really pleasantly surprised (especially after the carcrash of easymail), and have used it in numerous companies now - to great effect.


    Zimbra is great, but to be honest, unless you've got someone with at least some linux background, you're gonna struggle until you find your feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    Zimbra is great, but to be honest, unless you've got someone with at least some linux background, you're gonna struggle until you find your feet.

    it comes down to TCO.
    The difference in price would easily pay for a tech to be linux trained.

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    If you've got a SLT that'll appreciate that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    If you've got a SLT that'll appreciate that....
    Why wouldn't they? It then means it's possible to implement other open source solutions instead of forking out for MS licences and ticks their boxes for CPD.
    Last edited by webman; 16th December 2008 at 10:13 AM.

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    Give me as many advantages you can think of. I'm desperate to get rid of RM Easymail!!
    Out of curiosity why are you desperate to get rid of RM Easymail? Do you find it limiting in some way? Is there something you want to do but can't? Or maybe you're Exchange Certified so know it like the back of your hand?

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    Because many people still look upon Microsoft as 'safe'

    You and I, and most here, know linux has many benifits - but try explaining that to people who have no tech grounding.

    I'm not saying that you shouldn't try, and If you're lucky enough to have an SLT that will back you then go for it.

    The first two years at my last place we had full backing, and made great progress - then leadership changed hands and all that fell to bits. putting the kibosh on my VLE and Joomla plans :-(

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