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    Back up, Back up.

    hi all, as the use of ict is growing so are the files, so this brings up the question of backing up files, what files on the curriculum server would be classed as a must to back up, profiles of teachers? lesson plans ? im just trying to get on top of things and this needs to be sorted, tape back up fails due to length of names used on files ,cant find files, or exceeds the limit.Primary school with over 100 staff and around 700 pupils, 300+- that have individual logons. other methods of back up would be appreciated .thanks.. how do you guys n girls do it?

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    We backup all user areas every two days.
    Exchange every day.
    Shared areas twice a week.
    Moodle once a week.

    We backup to a Linux Nas containing 2 tb storage
    and a small thecus nas containing 600 gig for me to take home.

    Tapes are just to small now adays.

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    We have a small setup and an enormous NAS... in a separate building a long way from the server

    So we backup the whole lot daily - full backup - to the NAS

    We also have Shadow copy in use on Shared Areas and Home drives.

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    anyone else?

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    any chance of links to sites? cost ? suppliers?

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    I want us to implement a HDD backup - our tapes are starting to fail because of size and because the drives are getting too old.

    We currently have a small (160gb) FreeNAS box that backs up all user data on a daily basis and keeps a weeks worth at a time - but this is only used for quick restores when a student deletes work. We also use Volume Shadow Copy which is extremely useful and I love it to bits.

    But our tape backups just aren't reliable anymore - and I honestly feel that if the servers fell over we wouldn't be able to restore them properly.

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    Same boat I'm in here HighTower. I'm just in discussion with Dan at SCL Online to spec to servers with a few TB's of HDD storage on a RAID 5. One to backup the school servers and another to backup the backup.

    Once we have it thrashed out I'll be happy to post it here as long as it's OK with Dan.

    A few of my local NM's in Norfolk have a similar system in place.

    Neaby schools example is :-
    Dell PowerEdge 2900
    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5320 @ 1.86GHz (Dual or quad core) 1GB ram.. but would recommend at least 2gb.
    RAID5 Dell PERC5 (Adaptec) etc.. 1.2 TB at least.
    (I bought a dell power edge 2900 with 8x 80gb hdd's for the drive bays and then bought 6x 500gb seagate drives)

    OS: I'm using FreeBSD 6.2, but recommend CentOS 5.2. If the OS dies, will be reinstalling with CentOS!
    Rsync will be used to copy from machine to machine and only 1 pc has samba installed with a shared directory so veritas backup exec can backup to it.

    Hope that's of some help to someone.

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    Hi Simon,

    I've tested rsync (across 2 freenas's) and it worked a treat! It was fantastic. I've spec'd up a couple of home made boxe's but that's using software RAID (had it at about £400 a machine for plenty of RAM and HDD and a decent mobo and chip).

    If you could post the prices up when you get them though that would be great. The SMT know I'm pushing towards it so it would be something else to pass on to them.

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    so who configures these backup systems? only asking as i wouldnt have the time to do it or have the time to have a play to learn how to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamzah View Post
    any chance of links to sites? cost ? suppliers?
    We picked up our HP Server for £107 from insight.com, and just added 2* 1tb sata drives (£80 each), then installed ubuntu (Free).

    Server is nothing special, AMD x2 2.2, 512 ram, 160gig sata hdd, but does the job well.

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    Worth having a look at Comodo Backup, completely free, has a good sync setup it wich is very easy to setup and can sync to Hdd, Network share, FTP, or tape/cd.

    Free File Backup Software Download

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamzah View Post
    so who configures these backup systems? only asking as i wouldnt have the time to do it or have the time to have a play to learn how to do it.
    Something I'm doing myself. There might be someone out there who can price a full install for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamzah View Post
    so who configures these backup systems? only asking as i wouldnt have the time to do it or have the time to have a play to learn how to do it.

    Did it myself with NTbackup - took very little time to do - and I'm not a very technical techy

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    Same as Elsie and Ninja here. Set up the FreeNAS server myself and just used ntbackup on the windows servers.

    FreeNAS is a doddle to set up (I know next to nothing about Linux and I've had no trouble with it) and it has a really good GUI. As for ntbackup - just backup your files to 'File' rather than tape.

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    thanks all for your help,il look into it or maybe just pass on the info to the ICT co-ordinator,on the other hand i think it will still be an issue 12 months from now if i were to do so, i will end up sorting it myself. thanks again .

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