Virtual XP on Vista

cooper · 18-08-2008, 12:16 PM

What software would you recommend to run XP on a Vista PC.

Have a friend who has a some software that will only run on XP

Would free virtul pc 2007 be ok

Thanks

Cooper

FN-GM · 18-08-2008, 12:18 PM

I can't see why not, it will work fine.

I have been told that virtual box (also free) is better than virtual PC. I haven't tried it myself as i use vmware.

Z

SYNACK · 18-08-2008, 12:21 PM

Virtual PC runs XP fine, better than VMWare in my opinion due to its close relationship with both the host and guest OS. Just make sure you have plenty of RAM in the system. Have you tried using the application compatibility toolkit on your application as that can configure a whole bunch of extra exceptions that will make quite a few programs work, it also includes a bunch of premade templates that other users have made for tricky software.

cooper · 18-08-2008, 12:55 PM

Thanks for the advise guys, and no SYNACK i havn't used vista much yet still on XP at home. Will have a look at this first when i go round there.

Cooper

powdarrmonkey · 18-08-2008, 02:00 PM

Thumbs up for Virtual PC. If the Bios supports virtual assistance thingys make sure they're switched on, improves performance quite considerably.

tarquel · 18-08-2008, 06:44 PM

another thumbs up for Virtual PC here. Is great in tamdem with RIS for deployment testing [not drivers obviously

].

And yes, if your machine is new enough to support Hardware Virtualisation, then turn that baby on

Cheers.
Nath.

cooper · 19-08-2008, 09:42 AM

Have virtual box running on my laptop to test working well.

kesomir · 19-08-2008, 09:43 AM

I use virtualbox on vista 64 since vmware wont run on that as a host os yet.

cooper · 27-08-2008, 01:02 PM

With the VM would the OS require antivirus if being used online or will the main computer look after this?

matt40k · 27-08-2008, 01:15 PM

I think you would need antivirus on both? I'm not exactly sure how each type of virtualization works.

Only thing about Virtual PC etc is the lack of DirectX support. Which is weird as DirectX is Microsoft! I hear VM is 8.1 and Parellels is upto 9. Nothing is DirectX10 YET, I believe you can use the project, fallen leaf or something to do this, they made DirectX 10 work on non-DX10 cards and XP.

Anyway that's only if you do graphical stuff.

powdarrmonkey · 27-08-2008, 04:12 PM

You should install additional AV software on your guest OSs too.

cooper · 27-08-2008, 04:31 PM

Cheers Guys

The virtual XP i setup has AVG running and i have had a call from the friend i set it up with saying that its running out of disk space.

I cant work out how to expand this and wanted to check to see if AV was needed.

Is there a solution to this?

Thanks

Cooper

powdarrmonkey · 27-08-2008, 11:39 PM

I don't have a copy of VPC in front of me but from memory I'm not sure if you can. You certainly can't shrink disks.

cooper · 28-08-2008, 08:03 AM

Was looking last night, Looks like you can make a slave drive but not expand the master.

This is a shame as it looks like i will have to go over again and reinstall it.

Cheers

Cooper

SYNACK · 28-08-2008, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooper

Was looking last night, Looks like you can make a slave drive but not expand the master.

This is a shame as it looks like i will have to go over again and reinstall it.

Cheers

Cooper

Treat it like a normal pc where you are replacing the PC with a larger one. Boot the VM with your favorite disk imaging software then copy/expand the filesystem onto your secondary (larger) virtual drive. Then all you need to do is swap the primary VHD file in VPC to the larger drive and your done. No need to reinstall.

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18-08-2008, 12:18 PM	#2
FN-GM Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 4,927 Thanks: 157 Thanked 162 Times in 156 Posts Rep Power: 38	I can't see why not, it will work fine. I have been told that virtual box (also free) is better than virtual PC. I haven't tried it myself as i use vmware. Z

18-08-2008, 12:21 PM	#3
SYNACK Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,722 Thanks: 59 Thanked 253 Times in 230 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 55	Virtual PC runs XP fine, better than VMWare in my opinion due to its close relationship with both the host and guest OS. Just make sure you have plenty of RAM in the system. Have you tried using the application compatibility toolkit on your application as that can configure a whole bunch of extra exceptions that will make quite a few programs work, it also includes a bunch of premade templates that other users have made for tricky software.

18-08-2008, 12:55 PM	#4
cooper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 141 Thanks: 12 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 4	Thanks for the advise guys, and no SYNACK i havn't used vista much yet still on XP at home. Will have a look at this first when i go round there. Cooper

18-08-2008, 02:00 PM	#5
powdarrmonkey Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alcester, Warwickshire Posts: 1,099 Thanks: 58 Thanked 104 Times in 87 Posts Rep Power: 22	Thumbs up for Virtual PC. If the Bios supports virtual assistance thingys make sure they're switched on, improves performance quite considerably.

18-08-2008, 06:44 PM	#6
tarquel Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Powys, Mid-Wales, UK Posts: 1,634 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Rep Power: 11	another thumbs up for Virtual PC here. Is great in tamdem with RIS for deployment testing [not drivers obviously ]. And yes, if your machine is new enough to support Hardware Virtualisation, then turn that baby on Cheers. Nath.

19-08-2008, 09:42 AM	#7
cooper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 141 Thanks: 12 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 4	Have virtual box running on my laptop to test working well.

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kesomir Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 180 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Rep Power: 4	I use virtualbox on vista 64 since vmware wont run on that as a host os yet.

27-08-2008, 01:02 PM	#9
cooper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 141 Thanks: 12 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 4	With the VM would the OS require antivirus if being used online or will the main computer look after this?

27-08-2008, 01:15 PM	#10
matt40k Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ipswich Posts: 444 Thanks: 12 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts Rep Power: 5	I think you would need antivirus on both? I'm not exactly sure how each type of virtualization works. Only thing about Virtual PC etc is the lack of DirectX support. Which is weird as DirectX is Microsoft! I hear VM is 8.1 and Parellels is upto 9. Nothing is DirectX10 YET, I believe you can use the project, fallen leaf or something to do this, they made DirectX 10 work on non-DX10 cards and XP. Anyway that's only if you do graphical stuff.

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27-08-2008, 04:12 PM	#11
powdarrmonkey Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alcester, Warwickshire Posts: 1,099 Thanks: 58 Thanked 104 Times in 87 Posts Rep Power: 22	You should install additional AV software on your guest OSs too.

27-08-2008, 04:31 PM	#12
cooper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 141 Thanks: 12 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 4	Cheers Guys The virtual XP i setup has AVG running and i have had a call from the friend i set it up with saying that its running out of disk space. I cant work out how to expand this and wanted to check to see if AV was needed. Is there a solution to this? Thanks Cooper

27-08-2008, 11:39 PM	#13
powdarrmonkey Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alcester, Warwickshire Posts: 1,099 Thanks: 58 Thanked 104 Times in 87 Posts Rep Power: 22	I don't have a copy of VPC in front of me but from memory I'm not sure if you can. You certainly can't shrink disks.

28-08-2008, 08:03 AM	#14
cooper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 141 Thanks: 12 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 4	Was looking last night, Looks like you can make a slave drive but not expand the master. This is a shame as it looks like i will have to go over again and reinstall it. Cheers Cooper

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