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    USB devices for non-admins

    I'm sure I've seen this topic before but have not been able to find it, apologies if it does exist somewhere already.

    Basically, I need pupils/staff to be able to plug in various USB devices (webcams, intel microscope) etc. and for the device to be picked up by XP and just work.
    Instead, after ghosting, those devices get 'found' again and need the drivers to be installed. So, I have to run around with every USB device and plug them into EVERY USB port as just plugging them into one does not work.
    When you plug them in as a non-admin you get a login box pop-up asking for the username and password of an administrator as you need to be an admin to install the device.
    I found a group policy in Computer Configuration >> Windows Settings >> Security Settings >> Local Policies >> User Rights Assignment >> "Load and unload device drives" which I added Everyone to as a test, but that didn't work.

    What do you guys do - this must be a common problem?

    Cheers.

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    We do what you do (every device into every usb port) when making a ghost image for particular hardware / motherboard.

    Of course if a dept gets shiny! new usb hardware post-ghost, it doesn't work - but that's infrequent enough to not be a major problem.

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    Don't remember seeing them eejit. There are a couple of threads on pen drives:

    http://edugeek.net/index.php?name=Fo...B+Drive+policy

    http://edugeek.net/index.php?name=Fo...B+Drive+policy

    Dunno if they answer your question tho'. Annoying XP doesn't remember the devices after imaging. For myself I just have the odd usb scanner so it isn't a problem.

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    Disable driver signing checks too.

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    @ Pete. Do you have all the same hardware throughout the school? We find that ghosting doesn't keep the drivers on all machines - probably because I've checked on machines that were a different hardware type to the 'master' image and so the USB ports are new. (USB ports must have individual Device IDs or something that causes this problem in the first place)

    @ Mark. Cheers for the reply. Had a quick look through those threads, USB sticks always get picked up fine for some reason, so not a problem with those

    @ Geoff. yep, driver signing is switched off too.

    As Paul once said to me "There will be an answer. let it be."

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    So, since the above group policy made no difference ( Computer Configuration >> Windows Settings >> Security Settings >> Local Policies >> User Rights Assignment >> "Load and unload device drives") I wonder what it actually does?

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    Quote Originally Posted by eejit
    @ Pete. Do you have all the same hardware throughout the school?
    No, every main computer room (~30 machines) has identical hardware and a standard ghost. Any other machines are (usually) of the same type as a main room, so it kinda works. We generally devote a day or so to getting the ghost just as we want it (drivers etc) and then another day trying to break it - works for us, ymmv.

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    So, do you use a seperate ghost image for each room, Pete?

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    Quote Originally Posted by eejit
    So, do you use a seperate ghost image for each room, Pete?
    Yup, though a ghost from some rooms can (sometimes works, mostly doesn't) work in other room. We tend to just do a disk -> disk copy. Takes about 5 mins per disk. After they're joined to the domain and moved to the right OU they get any other room-specific programs via group policy.

    Our desktop ghosts (including full local install of Encarta 2005) are getting to 10GB+ so I'm loath to push them over the network.

    This strategy does depend on you being the one who chooses the hardware - our last purchase was 8 Dells, our next purchase is 32 Dells of the same make......

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    Right, unfortunately/fortunately after 5 years of tears I've managed to get single ghost images to work on all kinds of hardware including laptops so that's where this USB device problem becomes a major pain.

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    I presume that it would be the height of bad manners to bump this question.

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    I don't have any of these issues, I can take a look at my gpo settings if you want. You *are* running sysprep with ghost aren't you? I couldn't live without sysprep now

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/16306.html

    Allow Users to Install USB Jump Drives
    Novell Cool Solutions: Cool Tool

    Grant Users and Power Users the ability to install USB mass storage devices.

    http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/...ump_drives.zip - direct link

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy
    I don't have any of these issues, I can take a look at my gpo settings if you want. You *are* running sysprep with ghost aren't you? I couldn't live without sysprep now
    Absolument.

    Do you have webcams or that bloody Intel microscope that was everywhere 5 years ago, but that they quickly discontinued?

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    Re: USB devices for non-admins

    Quote Originally Posted by fooby
    http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/16306.html

    Allow Users to Install USB Jump Drives
    Novell Cool Solutions: Cool Tool

    Grant Users and Power Users the ability to install USB mass storage devices.

    http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/...ump_drives.zip - direct link
    Cheers for the link, but it says "Grant Users and Power Users the ability to install USB mass storage devices." will that really allow users to add devices too?
    Will test it shortly.

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