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    Upgrading from IE6

    What do you think?

    Time to take the plunge to IE8? [edited from IE7]

    Have they got rid of the bugs yet?

    I wouldn't normally bother but Windows update won't work anymore with IE6

    Progress - who needs it!

    Simon

    PS Is XP SP1 any good?
    Last edited by SimpleSi; 17th January 2014 at 09:56 AM.

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    I know it's you - but seriously, are you taking the mick?

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    Either that or he's gone back in time

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    I was with the PS XP SP1

    Just found one set of netbooks still running IE6 !

    I am a great believer in leaving well alone as I believe that it less work for me overall to leave well alone than to constantly "update" and deal with problems that sometimes causes.

    To be fair - I've had a couple of nasty virus infections in the 15 years I've been doing this but I think I've won overall

    I think most of my users use Chrome now so they won't have noticed.

    These are a batch of Samsung NC10s (probably 6 years old ) on their last legs anyway - updating to latest state will probably end up finally crippling them (1G of memory is iffy even for XP nowadays)

    But they need to be replaced anyway now but on the off chance (100% certainty more like it) that the school don't fork out for new ones in May - I thought I'd bring them down to speed between now and then - get one "updated" and then copy image across to the others

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    Problem is, IE is such an integral part of Windows that it needs to be kept updated even if it's not the primary browser.

    I have a very different philosophy on updating. I like to wait when something new comes out - let others test it, find the bugs, wait for updates. Then I go for it. With Windows updates, they tend to sit in WSUS for a couple of weeks then get pushed out. I don't find this makes much work for me - obviously with updating to Windows 8.1 I've had to do a bit of work but well worth it IMO. The main workload with new features, browsers and OSs is staff training really, but CPD is a good tickbox anyway.

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    that it needs to be kept updated even if it's not the primary browser.
    Experience of the pupils using these for past 5 years would seem to contradict that

    I don't run domains so don't have WSUS

    I realise that I am on the wing on this issue but it has worked (mainly) for me

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    I imagine that it would be less amusing to find sensitive data compromised due to horribly outdated systems as that incurred "less work".

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    I don't run domains so don't have WSUS
    You don't need a domain for WSUS

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    Oh - Is it free ?

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    FN-GM's right, you don't need a domain, but you do need a Windows Server of some kind (just not set up as a domain controller, but more a member server).

    You'd then need to deploy Windows Update settings via regedits/scripts. No other way of doing it without Group Policy in place.

    Windows Server isn't free, but WSUS is.

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    I imagine that it would be less amusing to find sensitive data compromised due to horribly outdated systems as that incurred "less work".
    Well, if they want hack through the county firewall and remote into a compromised XP netbook and steel a Y6 animation then I'll have to live with the consequences

    Don't get me wrong - I wouldn't expect others to do what I do but I think I could safely say that I am the 6th Dan in the art of not following the normal network/computer management path.

    Even I was suprised to find IE6 on the netbook

    But non-one has come to me with a problem with them (apart from the white screen on NC10 death hinge fault) for several years and they are in use daily

    Primary kids don't go near bad stuff and if they do - they are soon caught and stopped

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    I so go along with the way you work @s-gtech

    Iv'e been caught out before and going in to work yesterday for example noticed servers seeking a restart. No way, so I updated a few clients instead and then found that they had picked up one of those horrid MS updates that seem to need a double restart before the log on screen appears. As we are a KS3 special for boys, some who get twitchy if their machine isn't on almost instantly that was bad enough but to have servers take an age to get back to 'normal' would have been too much pain for one day.

    On IE we have held at IE9 here.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3s-gtech View Post
    Problem is, IE is such an integral part of Windows that it needs to be kept updated even if it's not the primary browser.

    I have a very different philosophy on updating. I like to wait when something new comes out - let others test it, find the bugs, wait for updates. Then I go for it. With Windows updates, they tend to sit in WSUS for a couple of weeks then get pushed out. I don't find this makes much work for me - obviously with updating to Windows 8.1 I've had to do a bit of work but well worth it IMO. The main workload with new features, browsers and OSs is staff training really, but CPD is a good tickbox anyway.

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    Not sure if you are contemplating ever using something like Office 365, but from April this year it's not supported on IE8.

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    When I see a post related to xp/ie6 I shudder and want to mock the op. Is this wrong?

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    Please expand your thought process a tad @free780

    Are you saying you think that IE10 and Windows 8 were well thought through releases by the mighty Microsoft - come to that and diverting a tad Apple aren't in my good books with iOS7 and Maverick either come to that. It's mighty embarrassing to tell staff that updates are a necessary progress for security only to find that the updates then create problems that weren't there before. iOS for example on iPads has screwed AirServer up on laptops and PCs that worked perfectly well with the old version but now don't have punchy enough graphics.

    Quote Originally Posted by free780 View Post
    When I see a post related to xp/ie6 I shudder and want to mock the op. Is this wrong?

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