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    Re: Exchange

    yeah primaryemail has rpc over https / activsync / owa / oma etc.

    ajbritton, lgfl should look at primary email for a framework, it was designed for ngfl - url for primary email is www.primaryemail.co.uk

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    Re: Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    CON: It's expensive. Initial cost + CALs
    E2K7 Standard Edition. You get a lot for your £140, you dont need Enterprise unless you want UM and the CAL's are £3.00 each.

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    CON: If it doesn't do something you want OOTB, third-party tools to do the job will probably cost (if it's even possible to do said task).
    E2K7 with Windows PowerShell Windows PowerShell if you can build a nix box, you can write a PowerShell scripts to do all the things that you may have needed third party tools for with E2K3

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    CON: It's properietary - if you choose to migrate to a better platform in the future things could get tricky. Also some of it's "standards" implementations are broken.
    What?

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    CON: It breaks. A lot. This forum is full of issues.
    I say again....... What?

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    Taking those into consideration - Zimbra, Scalix and Open-Xchange are more than up to the job of being MSExchange replacements; but have none of the mentioned pitfalls that MSexchange does, have better features and cost a lot less (eg. no software cost, no CALs).
    Exchange 2007 at £140 is a steal, I have just finished an install at a School and it is a peach. What most people fail to mention is that M$ throw huge amounts of money at R&D, their products are now secure OOTB and normally only hardware or user error will break them.

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    Re: Exchange

    "E2K7 Standard Edition. You get a lot for your £140, you dont need Enterprise unless you want UM and the CAL's are £3.00 each. "

    There is other features Enterprise gets you, I suggest reading on microsoft.com if you are interested.

    I don't think 2k7 gives you much more than 2k3 though, its great value for schools though.

    I actualy think 2k7 is a bit more time consuming to manage, but I'm a 2k3 geek.

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    Re: Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by johnymac
    There is other features Enterprise gets you, I suggest reading on microsoft.com if you are interested.
    I did read Microsoft.com and did my homework and I think you must be refering to these features?

    http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/ev.../editions.mspx

    Not sure why any School would need 50 databases or 50 storage groups?

    IMHO Enterprise 2007 is overkill unless you are hosting multiple companies.

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    Re: Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by djm968
    holy crap - it looks just like zimbra (free) it even has similar functionality !

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    Re: Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd
    holy crap - it looks just like zimbra (free) it even has similar functionality !
    Zimbra does look impressive however I think it would probably take a little longer to Migrate Exchange 2003 to Zimbra than it would to Exchange 2007.

    Both versions can also co-exist so you can have the E2K7 as say the Client Access and Hub Transport server and keep your mailboxes on the E2k7 box untill you are ready to migrate.

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    Re: Exchange

    no, theres a built in migration function from exchange.

    The difference between 2007 and zimbra is that I've had the functionality live for the last year and am still getting new features. You'll be stuck on 2007 for the next 4-5 yrs whilst MS play catchup. Zimbra really is as good as they say it is - and why powershell when you can Bash

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    Re: Exchange

    All true Cyber...... to Bash or not to Bash that is the question!

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    Re: Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd
    no, theres a built in migration function from exchange.

    The difference between 2007 and zimbra is that I've had the functionality live for the last year and am still getting new features. You'll be stuck on 2007 for the next 4-5 yrs whilst MS play catchup. Zimbra really is as good as they say it is - and why powershell when you can Bash
    Not really true, Exchange 2007 SP1 is due any day now with some awesome new features. One of which is the ability to have a shadow server running in the background that will immediately take over from the primary server in case of hardware failure. This kind of new feature could revolutionise our jobs and peace of mind

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    Re: Exchange

    Good Point.

    Standby Continuous Replication will be available with E2K7 SP1 providing relplication for individual storage groups and the "warm spare" target server can even be located at a remote site unaffected by power or other transient conditions affecting the production server.

    In other word E2K7 with SP1 and SCR on a remote warm spare would have kept RM EasyMail running when the "power failed"

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    Re: Exchange

    .... sounds similar to a feature in redhat 5.1 that already available
    http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/0...anced-platform

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    Re: Exchange

    in zimbra you need an "add on" for outlook to connect to the exchange server with true mapi over rpc/https. A lot of our users wont want to install that third party app.

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    Re: Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by johnymac
    in zimbra you need an "add on" for outlook to connect to the exchange server with true mapi over rpc/https. A lot of our users wont want to install that third party app.
    you got me there.

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    Re: Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd
    .... sounds similar to a feature in redhat 5.1 that already available
    http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/0...anced-platform
    Nothing like it.

    With SCR are replicating only the storage groups. These could on an entire E2K7 Cluster or a single maiblox server (virtualised or physical) and relicated to a warm target cluster or spare server at a remote site.

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