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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    “Wow. That is still pretty early by our standards here. “
    Our head is keen to push IT and bring in Vista. He already bought me 1 licence to learn it and although I told him its not ready yet its going get hard to come up with a reason not to buy a Vista PC in 7 to 8 months time.

    We won’t role it out everywhere at once only new PC’s from the end of this year will be bought with Vista on. I don’t see the point in waiting for SP1 its already stable and fast the only thing holding it back are a few drivers that could be improved. Once drivers get a little better it will be time to start phasing in Vista. Most likely not on the network but as a few standalone PC’s to see how the children and staff react to it.

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    What MIS system do you use? What software do you use on it? Most of the software we have here is incompatible with it as some of it partly makes use of 16 bit code.

    SIMS.net and its other bits like FMS and Launcher also will not work on it...

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    Isn't it amazing what we will put up with in software? I don't recall any conversations along the lines of :
    "Well, I'm not trading in my Escort for a Focus until they sell them with all 4 wheels fitted..."
    "They are looking at installing a rubber band into the CD player in a set of upgrades planned to roll out in the New Year..."
    "Yes, I know it burns holes in everything I've got but have you ever seen a better looking iron?"

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    Been using it [ Ultimate ] for almost 4 months - I like it. But hey I enjoy most OS's apart from MACs.
    Only found one device so far which blue screens it - an old PCMCIA firewire card.
    Does not run great on my Dell D610 but getting something else in Sept for it to run on.
    Will possibly deploy it [ and the Office 2007 ] at the school in about 18 months 2 years. My only concern will be the GPO changes I'll have to make in 2003 server. Anyone started this yet ?

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsey
    Our head is keen to push IT and bring in Vista. He already bought me 1 licence to learn it and although I told him its not ready yet its going get hard to come up with a reason not to buy a Vista PC in 7 to 8 months time.
    I can think of a few reasons:

    - Cost of extra hardware required to get it to run to the same standards as XP does on existing systems
    - Cost of learning and support
    - Lack of real-world support from other users who've found the quirks and work-arounds
    - Lack of need for most school packages to actually run using Vista. In my experience (especially primary) there's no need to have Vista for at least 2 years.


    Roughly translated your head is just wowed by the "cool" technobabble speak from the MS marketing department and wants the new toys..



    Anyways, as for myself I'm installing it on one machine to play with and learn what it does/doesn't do.. so I can support those laptops and home machines I'll invariable need to bail out.

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    I might upgrade my PC at home so that I can get used to it. We have no plans for a migration to Vista in school as yet, but it will naturally come at some point, so there's no harm in a bit of readiness for that day.

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    The most annoying thing (apart from UAC of course) is that if you have a multi-homed system as I do at work then your second LAN card (or any not directly linked to your member domain) gets flagged as being on a 'dodgy' network and half the services shut off on it. Trying to browse or ping anything on my second connection is impossible unless you tell it that it is on a 'trusted' network. When you re-boot it reverts back to 'paranoid' mode of course.

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    I think that is down to it's security-as-an-afterthough mentality.

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    I do not think MS can win. When they try and make there OS a bit more secure and bullet proof, by making everyone run as a user by default and then making you elevate your self to make any system changes people complain about how annoying it is, then when its turned off (because its annoying) people complain how insecure there OS is and how easy it is to take it over because people are surfing the net as an admin and clicking crackz and porn.

    How do they win? what should they do?

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    don't think we will roll it out for at least 2 years, it doesn't offer much over XP in a corporate environment. Its nice for a home machine though.

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    Just put it on the heads PC. This'll shut him up and educate him as to how bad it really is.

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    I am running just Vista on my tablet PC now - I know I will never get around to using it until it is my only option.

    I know in twelve months time we will struggle to buy anything that is not Vista so the sooner I find my way around it the better.

    The only problems I have found so far are that Adobe Premiere and Photoshop elements behave a little strangely and getting it to synch with my PDA was fun but got there in the end.

    The sychronising of offline files seems a lot smoother than under XP too.

    But...

    Where is active desktop - all our staff currently have a staff handbook which is a series of weblinks embedded into their desktop. It has taken a long time to get staff to use it and now it looks as though it may have to be scrapped unless they reintroduce it or I can find another way (the sidebar is a possiblity but not really ideal)

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    I wouldn't even recommend installing Vista on a system unless it's it has at least 2Gb ram, and a multicore processor. I use vista Home Premium at home and we have a Vista Enterprise License for our school as part of our volume license agreement and i doubt witin the next 3 years we will switch from XP. Considering we only switched from 2000 less than 14 months ago.

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    I wouldn't recommend installing vista on any system full-stop 8)

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    Re: The most annoyin things about vista

    @Quackers

    Absolutely... The problem is they can't get it right. They don't seem to understand there are two levels of computer users in the world.

    Those "home users" who install every toolbar, spyware, adware, freebie software from magazines, download off file sharing sites and generally havn't a clue what they are doing.

    Then there are those, like us (i hope) who are not stupid enough to open an email that says 'n*ked pictures of Anna Kornakova' or install real player.

    Generally speaking, Microsoft seem to only aim their OS at one group of users. Vista is the 'I'm clueless' version. It's dumbed down to suit this group of people. The problem is that those of us who have a clue, don't need to be told 'You've just logged in. This could be dangerous. Are you sure you want to?'

    All they have to do is give options. Yes you can disable UAC - but in doing that you have to disable security centre to stop the warning messages. I also don't want the dumbed down control panel or pretty left side panel that gives me further help.

    Vista business & ultimate is aimed at 'people in the know'. Then why should we be treated like a 6 year old if we've bought those versions.

    I bought Ultimate two weeks after release and trialled it for 2 months. I've bought new versions of Perfect Disk and Nero ect so that I can use software i'm used to. But in the end, I've reverted back to XP. I became fed up with the 'Insufficient User Intelligence' style messages.



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